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Featured YHWH: Worship ONE GOD, not MANY GODS. Worship Me, alone!

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Soapy, May 6, 2021.

  1. Soapy

    Soapy Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince

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    I want to explore the truth that Yhwh God told his favoured nation that they are to worship Him, YHWH, and YHWH alone.

    Why? Because the Jews (called Israelites, at that time) were living among, in and around, other tribes and nations, who worshipped many Gods.

    Yhwh instructed them that they were to have no other God bug him... that HE was to be their ONE GOD.

    And to this day, Jews believe that GOD, YHWH, is their ONLY GOD.

    I too, believe this. But there are many who misinterpret YHWH’s directive and confound his word. The WORD OF GOD has become adulterated.

    Why is it so hard to believe the word of Jesus Christ:
    • “Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'" (Luke 4:8)
    • “Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks.” (John 4:23)
    Why is it difficult to to understand what yhwh said:
    • "You shall have no other gods before me.“ (Exodus 20:3)
    • “I am the YHWH, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God....”
    And the apostles tell us:
    • “yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live;” ( 1 Cor 8:6)
    • One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. (Eph 4:6)
    Please note, the thread is mainly about GOD being the ONLY GOD. And that because this ONE GOD is the creator, He us rightly called, ‘FATHER’ (which means: ‘Creator’, ‘Life Giver’, ‘He that brings forth’, and ‘the Head’ by ultimate context.)
     
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  2. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    Who disagrees?
     
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    moorea944 Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunetly, most people on this board disagrees....
     
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  4. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Veteran Member

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    Christians?

    I never heard one christian say that God is not one.
     
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    there isn't this oneness vs some otherness. that is the problem with most dualistic believers/worshippers. there is no otherness at the Absolute. there is no duality.

    this is what is being expressed. there is no duality. there is only this ONE ABSOLUTE everywhere and at all times. worshipping one god like there is some other god besides is the confusion by a dualist.
     
  6. Redemptionsong

    Redemptionsong Well-Known Member

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    Paul said, 'so worship l the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and the prophets.' [Acts 24:14] Yet, in Hebrews we read, 'But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the septre of thy kingdom'. [Hebrews1:8; Psalm 45:6]

    If we are to accept the teaching of the apostle Paul, then Christ is worthy of worship because the fulness of the Godhead rested upon him. Disciples of Jesus worship God in Christ.

    If God was not in Christ, then he would not have been worthy of worship. Yet, we know from Philippians 2:10,11 that Jesus Christ IS worshipped.

     
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    many say that . then they start dividing him up into 2 and 3 . God is singular. he can not be split . he does have subordinates that do the things he wants done . the angelic sons of God.
     
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  8. Unveiled Artist

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    Jesus and holy spirit aren't creators. They believe only one creator.
     
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    And no one split God up into 2 or 3 at all.
    God the Father is the creator, who has a Spirit, that can enter into God's creation such as when The Spirit of God hovered above the waters when God created everything.
    And as John 1 describes, God also has a Word, what we understand as a "Mind", that also left the Father, became man, lived and diesd as one, and rturned back to the Father and the Spirit.

    We are created in the immage of God, with a Mind and Spirit, but obviously we lost our eternal light body when Adam sinned, and we will die if either the spirit or our minds leaves our bodies.

    Never have the Christian believed that the Trinity is 3 gods!
    that is an interperetation which Non Christians like to claim is the religion of the Christian.

    I am a Trinitarian believer, believing that Jesus and the Holy Ghost is IN the Father.
    The Triune God has a body of light, therefore He has an existance
    He has a Spirit, therefore He is alive.
    He has a Mind, therefore he is intelligent.

    Any other god is equal to an idol, and persons who changes this attributes of YHWH, is creating an Idol.

    A god such as that is a god without an existance, who is dead, and stupid!
     
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    Thomas said that Jesus was his Lord and God. But there is only one true God for a Christian so Jesus and the Father must be one God with the Father in the Son and the Son in the Father, as Jesus said.
    The Holy Spirit is the living waters that Jesus said He could give to the Samaritan woman at the well. The Holy Spirit was the presence of YHWH with Israel in the wilderness and grieved because of Israel's sins. (Eph 4:30, Isa 63:10)
    The Lord is the Spirit. (2Cor 3:17)
    There is a problem with the scriptures contradicting if the Father, Son and Holy Spirit aren't together, the One True God. The Father in the Son and the Son in the Father (John 14:11) and the Son and Father coming to dwell in a believer who loves them. (John 14:23)
    So why is the Father called the one true God?
    The Father includes the Son who is in Him and the Holy Spirit who is in Him. The Father is the source of the Spirit and of His Son.
     
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    Christ is never worshiped as God, but he is worshiped to the glory of the Father.
     
  12. John1.12

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    Jesus created all things .
     
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    'Him only shalt thou serve'. Do you serve Jesus Christ or not?
     
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    The reason that some don't buy what you sell
    Might be a similar reason that you don't buy what they sell:D

    FYI: The Bible is not the only valid Scripture there is
     
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    he could only do what his God wanted done
     
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    So true and if Jesus is not God we have no Savior. No created being is capable of being the Savior.

    I, even I am the Lord,
    And besides Me there is no savior.
    Isaiah 43:11

    ...but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.
    2 Timothy 1:10
     
  17. Unveiled Artist

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    How?

    Jesus was human. Flesh and blood. He's probably laugh to put him in line with his creator insofar to suggest he can do what his god did.
     
  18. Redemptionsong

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    Yes, you're quite right.

    The difficulties arise, l think, if we do not pay attention to the fact that God's Spirit dwelt in a fully human body and soul.

    There are many passages of scripture that provide the human perspective, with Jesus praying to his Father.

    'My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?'

    It's important, however, that we see through the outward appearances, and recognise the Spirit within! As the apostles, including Thomas, were able to do.
     
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    The bible says the opposite though .
     
  20. Soapy

    Soapy Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince

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    Please can you all remember that this thread is concerning YHWH being the ONLY GOD of the Israelites / Jews.

    I understand that there will be a strong pull towards chatting about trinity but if you can confine your responses to YHWH God being the ONLY GOD that we should worship then that would be fine. I’m sure there are plenty threads concerning trinity elsewhere.

    Why, for instance, did YHWH need to tell the children of Israel that they were to worship Him and Him alone as their only God?

    What does it mean that Jesus said:
    • Father, ... this means eternal life that they should believe IN YOU, THE ONLY TRUE GOD...’
    What does it mean that the Apostle told his congregation that, though there are many who are called ‘Gods’ (Spiritual Rulers) and ‘Lords’ (Human Leaders) in the world, the congregations is to believe that:
    • ‘There is [only] one God; the Father, and [only] one Lord; Jesus Christ.’
    We are not to worship any other called ‘God’ but YHWH, alone. This is the point or are the points, I set the thread to explore.
     
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