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Featured Yeshua Warned Baha'u'llah's "I Am" Statements are False

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by wizanda, Dec 16, 2019.

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  1. loverofhumanity

    loverofhumanity Well-Known Member
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    They said the exact same thing about Jesus. In time Jesus proved them wrong and so will Baha’u’llah.
     
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  2. wizanda

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    Well since Baha'u'llah told Baha'i to watch for the one to come, who is chief among the archangels (Divine Manifestations); I'd say it is Zion Elohim according to the texts (Isaiah 52:7).

    But let me guess, you're not wanting to accept prophecy globally, even though it could save humanity as we're down near Hell, and thus your username means the exact opposite...

    As everyone down near Hell are hypocritical in some way; so you literally can not help going opposite to Baha'i's teachings, even though it means the end of humanity? :(

    If you cared more about everyone, rather than your own ideas of some religious label; then you'd already be studying the religions, and be willing to accept the ultimate conclusion between them - yet as you won't even drop your own labels mankind, will end as prophesied.

    Just be aware according to my understanding of Baha'i prophecy, I'm here as the warning of an avenging force of God; which is where the name Skanda in the Bhagahavad Gita, is a warrior for Source who brings the Mahapralaya Fire.

    Same in Zoroastrian texts, where the Saoshyant comes to explain the eisegetical errors (Zand) before the Frashokereti Fire; same in the Kallki Purana before the Mahapralaya Fire, and then the Age of Godliness.

    Now if that Fire is us educating people, depends on Humanity being realistic with this data, and taking this conversation seriously...

    That it is an opportunity with an Archangel appealing to Humanity before the Final Battle, and the End of Time.

    In my opinion.
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  3. Tony Bristow-Stagg

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    An opinion I do not share, or agree with.

    Regards Tony
     
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  4. Trailblazer

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    If you cared more about everyone, rather than your own ideas, you would not waste precious time studying the religions of the past, which have no remedies for age we live in.
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    If a religion does not have any solutions for the problems the world faces today, I see no reason to study it.

    “Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and center your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 213
     
  5. wizanda

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    OK lets be logical here, as I personally do not want the death of humanity, and not sure why anyone would... :confused:

    Please explain exactly where you're confused about how we can fulfil prophecy globally, and then we can rectify it?

    Trying to be argumentative, with someone who has been to the Pits of Hell, isn't getting us anywhere.

    The reason I'm mandated to put its our opinion is forum policy, and we keep to rules set in the environment guidelines.

    Thus like me checking what religious texts stated, to make sure I'm not going opposite; the idea you don't care you're going opposite to the religious texts, down near Hell before Judgement Day, is your choice - as forum policy states. :rolleyes:

    Yet seriously let's be real here, if Baha'i were educated about the errors in the religious texts, accepting that New Revelations, New Names, are set, and I was told this by God as a child to help humanity...

    Then that fulfils prophecy in a more positive way based on all religious texts, and we can create an Age of Godliness in understanding with Baha'i's help.

    The alternative is people will be charged with the genocide of humanity, and after the Source will recreate those who are worthy in the Time to Come.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
  6. wizanda

    wizanda One Accepts All Religious Texts
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    The religions of the past are prophesied by the Messiah to be fixed at the Resurrection.

    Since Baha'u'llah made claims that now need fixing even more, as he didn't understand the Bible, and has continued false Antichrist doctrines (John, Paul, and Simon); we are on the verge of mankind's destruction, due to religious divide in the Middle East.

    We need to fix one issue between us with Islam, Christianity Judaism...

    It isn't hard to fix, yet I need a platform to tell the world, else we all die soon (most religions were meant to help). :(

    El Elyon = God Most High = Allah = Brahman = Ahura Mazda = Universal Mind = CPU.

    Elohim = Divine Manifestations = Archangels = Avatars.

    Yeshua Elohim is stated in Isaiah 52:10, and I'm Zion Elohim (Isaiah 52:7).

    Yahavah is an Elohim according to the Bible, and thus we need to fix the theological errors, that mankind is about to destroy its self over.
    A Baha'i, Muslim, Zoroastrian are meant to be an ambassador for all religion as One, showing that the Source is universal; we've all been convinced by the Roman Empire to follow religion as some self serving cultish idea, like the fake Christianity they made up.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
  7. Trailblazer

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    Please give me a logical reason why old religions need to be fixed. When a car gets old and it is beyond repair, it is wise to get another car. God gave us a new car when He sent Baha'u'llah with a new Revelation that has everything we need in this new age.

    Why are we still talking about the Bible? I don't get it. o_O
     
  8. wizanda

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    All contexts are needed to be logical with data; we can not just take the end part of an equation, and make a sum.

    To establish Messianic prophecy in all contexts, we need to look at all books, and as a Baha'i this is mandated.

    Religion isn't about how we can serve our self, like the rest of our selfish society we've been raised in; it was originally inspired to serve humanity.
    Iran Vs Israel will soon take place in the Middle East, this is the Final Battle that leads to the Great Tribulation, and then the Source steps in, which Ends Time.

    The war of Israel Vs Iran is because Zionist are a corruption of the Tanakh; the Muslims state this, and clearly they don't like it, so they're basically getting the Christians through false texts, to massacre them in the Middle East.

    Whilst Baha'i support the fake texts of the Bible, it is a part of the Antichrist's teachings, that are then helping cause the atrocities in the world.

    When we are not part of the solution, we can become part of the problem; where we are the ones helping to badly educate people.
    Baha'u'llah, and texts around the world tell us to watch for the one who comes as the Avenging Archangel of God, before the End of Time.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
  9. Trailblazer

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    No, this was not mandated for Baha'is. Baha'u'llah never wrote that we should look at any other books . Rather, this is what He wrote that we are supposed to do in order to establish the truth of His claim to be the Messiah.

    “Say: The first and foremost testimony establishing His truth is His own Self. Next to this testimony is His Revelation. For whoso faileth to recognize either the one or the other He hath established the words He hath revealed as proof of His reality and truth. This is, verily, an evidence of His tender mercy unto men.” Gleanings, p. 105
     
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    When most of the Messengers have clearly stated all the religions are one, which means they're all for study, and the idea you're sitting arguing divisions among them, which will then lead to the inevitable end of humanity, means your helping to blatantly choose to murder humanity. :eek:
    I accept his claims to be someone manifest; thus it isn't a Messiah competition, there used to be a continual line of divine kingship in many religions.

    This thread is on should we kick the religious people out of reality, who don't study, and thus contribute to the problem.

    As stating the "I Am" conscious ideologies are stated to be removed in a Day; as someone provable as the King of Israel, I'm honestly getting a little annoyed debating basics, with people who clearly do not care if humanity ends soon, as long as they don't have to study. :(

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    Just because all the Messengers said all religions are one does not mean it is necessary to study all of them, but if people have and interest and the time to spend doing that, that is their own business. I do not have the time or the interest and it has not been mandated by Baha'u'llah. In fact, the opposite has been mandated, in so many words.

    This is the Day when the loved ones of God should keep their eyes directed towards His Manifestation, and fasten them upon whatsoever that Manifestation may be pleased to reveal. Certain traditions of bygone ages rest on no foundations whatever, while the notions entertained by past generations, and which they have recorded in their books, have, for the most part, been influenced by the desires of a corrupt inclination.” Gleanings, p. 171
     
  12. wizanda

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    I find this sort of behaviour disgusting sorry, what many of the Baha'i on here are putting forward, is that the Baha'i are purposely causing issues in religious divides, as they don't care to study the prior contexts properly.

    The Baha'i purposely contradict Yeshua's teachings in the Synoptic Gospels, they defile Jewish Laws and concepts; so literally they're part of the Antichrist's teachings, trying to end humanity.

    Plus now with such lousy answers from the Baha'i on here, it is basically condemning the whole of Baha'i as not doing anything they were meant to do.

    Baha'u'llah told the Baha'i to help the final Avatar to prevent the End of Humanity, to help unite the religions; not go around calling all the other religions false, other than yours. :oops:

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
  13. Trailblazer

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    No, most Bahais are not like me. They like studying older religions and they think they are useful even in this new age. I think the older religions are irrelevant in this new age. Although there might be some Bahais who think like me I am an outlier on this forum.
    The Baha'i Faith teachings do not contradict ANY of the REAL teachings of Jesus, we only disagree with the false doctrines of Christianity. Jewish laws and concepts were written for the Jews who lived over 4000 years ago, not for present day society. It is amazing how illogical people can be, but that is what happens when people are emotionally attached to their religions.
    I do not believe there will be a final Avatar.

    I never called any of the older religions false, NEVER. I only ever said I do not think the older religions are needed or useful in this new age. That is based upon what Baha'u'llah wrote, it is not something I made up myself.

    “The All-Knowing Physician hath His finger on the pulse of mankind. He perceiveth the disease, and prescribeth, in His unerring wisdom, the remedy. Every age hath its own problem, and every soul its particular aspiration. The remedy the world needeth in its present-day afflictions can never be the same as that which a subsequent age may require. Be anxiously concerned with the needs of the age ye live in, and center your deliberations on its exigencies and requirements.”
    Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 213

    It is also logic 101 stuff that the remedy mankind needed 4000 or 2000 years ago cannot be useful for this age. The spiritual teachings of all the older religions are as valid as they ever were but the social teachings and laws and their primary messages are outdated.

    In my opinion. :)
     
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