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WWJD: could society function?

Eddi

Agnostic
Premium Member
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function, or would it collapse?

Personally, I think it would improve but perhaps I'm being naive?
 

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function, or would it collapse?

Personally, I think it would improve but perhaps I'm being naive?

Our economic system is, IMHO, incompatible with his teachings. That is why I am a Christian socialist and pacifist.
 

epronovost

Well-Known Member
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function, or would it collapse?

Personally, I think it would improve but perhaps I'm being naive?

It would be a deeply impoverished society of rural people living off gardening and herding small animal with a very low technical development when it comes to science, engineering, medecine and the arts. It would be very equalitarian though and very peaceful and united. It's possible to create such society, many tribal culture looked very much like that, but they would be basically an easy prey for any imperialist nation after their territory.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function, or would it collapse?
This may sound crazy, but it might be possible that I might have originated the "WWJD?" thingy sometime in the early 1980's or so.

I taught potential adult converts coming into our local Catholic church, and I had a quiz or 10 or so questions that I'd give them asking what their responses would be under certain Catch-22 situations. After taking their quiz, I then asked them to answer what they thought Jesus would do under these same situations. Obviously, many changed their answers on some of the questions. The title of this was "WWJD?", which was at the top of their sheet, but I didn't explain what the letters stood for at first.

One the candidates liked the exercise so much she sent a letter to a priest in California she knew, and he used that program. A couple of years later the "WWJD?" thingy was being used nationally. However, I have no idea if that could be traced back to my program.

Needless to say, I haven't received any $ for it. ;)


BTW, to your question in the OP, depending on how it would be handled, it could not only help a society but also make it more humane.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Did you guys notice that the RCC in the past used to do all the opposite of what Jesus did?
Jesus forgave the adulterer; the Vatican used to execute heretics and witches. Jesus forgave the good thief on the cross...the Vatican denied mercy to many, during those dark ages.
So I think that when a religion goes political, it forgets Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ was a pacifist. He stopped Peter when he tried to defend him with the sword from the Roman soldiers.
If all Christians behaved exactly like Jesus, there would be no wars. There would be more social justice.

So answering the question, yes...it would be a better place.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function, or would it collapse?

Personally, I think it would improve but perhaps I'm being naive?

Likely a bunch of religious hermits living off of handouts.

I don't think Jesus would have been able to organize a labor force very well. Paul OTOH would have probably been pretty good at this.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function

Sure but it would look a lot different. Rather than a society based on greed with it's worship of money along with an ever increasing gap between rich and poor, we'd have a society based on compassion where people would automatically and from the heart help each other.

Rather than business treating employees as machinery, we'd have businesses embracing a mission of treating employees as being as valuable as C-suite people.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
It would be a deeply impoverished society of rural people living off gardening and herding small animal with a very low technical development when it comes to science, engineering, medecine and the arts. It would be very equalitarian though and very peaceful and united. It's possible to create such society, many tribal culture looked very much like that, but they would be basically an easy prey for any imperialist nation after their territory.

Deeply impoverished, small farms, low tech.
Sounds like half of China.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Likely a bunch of religious hermits living off of handouts.

I don't think Jesus would have been able to organize a labor force very well. Paul OTOH would have probably been pretty good at this.

Jesus' teachings have an eschatological meaning. So have his miracles.
When he multiplied the loaves and the fish, he just meant that we can all multiply resources through hard work, so there is never shortage of anything.
Because we have free will and we can do anything.

Also Capitalism...why not?
Which does not exclude Socialism, btw
 
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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I wouldn't want jesus to be head of anything. He'd insult all the "pagans." But I would be a bit surprised who he choses as believers. Society would be more divided.
Plus Jesus comes across as dumb as a rock.

Cursing fig trees out of season?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
If everyone lived their lives according to "what would Jesus do" could society function, or would it collapse?

Personally, I think it would improve but perhaps I'm being naive?
Jesus lived on the fringes of society.

Having an entire society of people on the fringes of society strikes me as s contradiction in terms.
 

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
Jesus' teachings have an eschatological meaning. So have his miracles.
When he multiplied the loaves and the fish, he just meant that we can all multiply resources through hard work, so there is never shortage of anything.
Because we have free will and we can do anything.

Also Capitalism...why not?
Which does not exclude Socialism, btw


Because we have free will folks won't do "anything". They'll do what they want to.

Folks have to be willing to share freely their hard work. Some would be willing, but I don't think enough to keep society rolling.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Did you guys notice that the RCC in the past used to do all the opposite of what Jesus did?
Jesus forgave the adulterer; the Vatican used to execute heretics and witches. Jesus forgave the good thief on the cross...the Vatican denied mercy to many, during those dark ages.
So I think that when a religion goes political, it forgets Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ was a pacifist. He stopped Peter when he tried to defend him with the sword from the Roman soldiers.
If all Christians behaved exactly like Jesus, there would be no wars. There would be more social justice.

So answering the question, yes...it would be a better place.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm glad you said "in the past" as I could never have converted to Catholicism prior to Vatican II for the reason you well said above.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I'm glad you said "in the past" as I could never have converted to Catholicism prior to Vatican II for the reason you well said above.

There has never been the axiom Catholicism=Vatican.
After all many saints are from that period.
:)
 
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