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Would you want to start over?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Epic Beard Man, Feb 13, 2019.

  1. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    The Simpsons addressed this in one of the early Treehouse of Horror episodes.
     
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  2. Revoltingest

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    A reset would be a great opportunity for people skilled in more basic & primitive technologies.
    I know many who mine fossil fuels, in run primitive engines, farm, blacksmith, etc. They'd
    have a competitive advantage over modern people skilled only at video games, TV watching,
    selling extended warranties, hunting, & blathering away on the internet. These people would
    just die off, leaving the world to be ruled by preppers & antique machinery collectors.
     
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    Good points. We've bred ourselves into a precarious situation, dependent on a byzantine network of regulations, support systems, trade relations as well as complex, high-tech systems to grow our food and maintain our living standards.
    There's not a lot of slack in the system. We're living at the cutting edge; beyond the carrying capacities of the regions we inhabit. Any disruption can throw things into serious disarray.

    Clearly we can't all go back to hunting and gathering, but we can take steps to gradually decrease our population to a level more in line with carrying capacity.
     
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    How isn't this expanding on the scenario? If the question is 'would humans band together and make the world a better place without modern technology' my answer is no and my post is why.
     
  5. Epic Beard Man

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    Alright we've been through this before:

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  6. Epic Beard Man

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    You'd have to see the movie I don't want to spoil it for you but towards the end of the movie yes part of my hypothetical scenario did occur.
     
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    You made two scenarios from my scenario.
     
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    Ok.
     
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    Can you elaborate for me? I think removing modern day technology would have devastating effects akin to a disaster scenario where most people will die and many people will turn ugly. Not considering that impact in the scenario is like that Battlestar Galactica illustration, where we get a fade to black before considering the impact of those consequences.

    If that's not related to what you're asking then what are you asking?
     
  10. Epic Beard Man

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    You had two sci fi scenarios that threw me off is why I made that emoji. I think humanity would do fine but yes a lot of us would die I don't quite call the figure 90% but yes a lot of us would die.
     
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    Honestly I think I ended up having four scenarios by the time I was done. Lol
    So you're a scenario 4 Thanos kind of guy you would say?
     
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    I meant no disrespect and was serious.

    The tendency to presume new technology is 'Evil' is an old one, Aristotelian and Egyptian. It often indicates a fear of change rather than an identified real problem. In the West its champion is the soldier CS Lewis who having survived WW1 identified all technology as evil and spent his life creating theological arguments against it. We all have that kind of reaction sometimes, but we can't have the knife without also having its edge. We couldn't chop our onions. Should we go back to biting straight into them? No, but that is the kind of change you are suggesting.
     
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    If you consider that every person is a slave to themselves in one way or another. Every person in any situation will have their own experience and feelings of how events occurred, therefore creating their own judgements. This in my opinion deletes the necessities of an overlord. As far as a need to prove natures flexibilities, evolution occurs rather or not we want it to or not. To explain myself further, if we choose to not change something detrimental would make us ignorant to the idea and truth behind "things change" rather or not that change is acceptable to anyone's liking or disliking. I totally agree with the idea that some people are in dire need of changing their nature (murders, molesters, rapist, etc.) but as a whole there is no way to stop things from changing unless there is a unification between people as a whole. When evolution of species occurs on earth, the entire species usually evolves although this can be regionally selective.
     
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    We've always had our systems, agriculture methods, regulations, norms - our technology has changed but we really haven't changed that much. Ultimately, even still 200,000 years later we still depend on each other for our survival, and due to our evolution as social animals we are lost and hopeless without the order and group cohesion that culture and society gives us. Take it away and suddenly we can't even communicate with each other. The Code of Hammurabi, the Hellenic Greeks, imperialist Romans, Polynesian, First Nations, UN, everywhere is dictated by how food is grown, social regulations (which includes everything from interpersonal conduct to trade), and our relation to others and the environment.
     
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    Greetings! Got any gasoline by chance?

     
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