Would you sacrifice yourself?

[OnePointSix18]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

 

[jonathan180iq]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

The easy answer is yes.

I really don't see how it was actually much of a sacrifice at all. If we assume that what the Bible says happened actually happened, and if we assume that Jesus knew it was going to go down like that, was it really all that big of a deal to endure pain and suffering for just one measly day? I mean, I'd dig my own eye balls out of my head if I knew that I was actually immortal and would wake up a couple of days later and suddenly be able to teleport, levitate, and shape-shift... Wouldn't you?

 

[Quintessence]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

No, because I don't share the metaphysical assumptions about "eternal life" that this question is grounded in. In other words, I think what your proposing is either impossible, an abomination, or something we already possess anyway.

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

Why would I sacrifice anything for someone I don't even know on a personal basis, for any reason?

 

[Laika]

I find the notion of eternal life devalues the sacrifice. I also don't fancy the prospect of an eternity in heavan with all the boring people. that sounds like hell.

 

[Skwim]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

Aren't those who believe in him guaranteed eternal life anyway?

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

No! What's the benefit? And isn't his eternal life already in the cards?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I would first need some type of sensical explanation as to exactly what my "sacrifice" was and how exactly it would be "saving" anyone. I just prefer things to make sense.

 

[YmirGF]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

Ah, the Salvation Gong Show. Nice... but, no.

 

[Demonslayer]

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

Only if the Patriots were on their bye-week. I don't want to miss the game.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

Would you sacrifice your life for the weekend so Jesus could have the possibility of eternal life?

No.

I'd consider sacrifice if his life was in danger (just like another, friend, or family member) and I had a last minute chance to save him in place of me, I would. Just like a child I saw crossing the street almost got hit by a car. Human instinct.

It wouldn't have to do with whether he was Jesus or not. Just something moral to do, save a life. Willing sacrifice kind of contradicts that purpose no matter how long I live.

Assuming that Jesus is God, wouldn't he live anyway? Even assuming he is sinless even without being god?

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I find the notion of eternal life devalues the sacrifice.

You know, you got a point! It does devalue that.

<< What Laika said.

 

[Skwim]

I find the notion of eternal life devalues the sacrifice. I also don't fancy the prospect of an eternity in heavan with all the boring people. that sounds like hell.

What sacrifice is that? I fail to see God taking himself out of the physical world, as he had planned all along, to be sacrificing anything.

 

[OnePointSix18]

No, because I don't share the metaphysical assumptions about "eternal life" that this question is grounded in. In other words, I think what your proposing is either impossible, an abomination, or something we already possess anyway.



Why would I sacrifice anything for someone I don't even know on a personal basis, for any reason?

I think the entire concept of "eternal life" is incoherent. I've tried to explain eternity in temporal terms and here is a whiff of an infinitely small segment of what eternal life might be like....Time would allow me to meet everyone and get to know everyone that ever was, is and would be. Let's give all those people a hypothetical number of 100,000,000,000 beings. If we could all share the entire contents of our lives I will hear everyone's story trillions upon trillions and trillions of times. So much that we have all heard and explored every word and utterance ad nauseum. There would come a point that there would not be anything else possible to learn about the other eternal beings. I could get into a 20th century rocket and ship 1 grain of sand from the earth to worlds that haven't even been formed yet, 15 or 16 billion light years away. Turn around come back to earth, package and ship another grain of sand across the universe and so on. I could repeat that until I had moved every grain of sand from the earth to the other world. We are a google+ of years from now and guess what, that length of time would be as miniscule as plank time and......I would still have an eternity ahead of me.

 

[Sapiens]

Sure. I've already outlived my usefulness.

 

[Terese]

I don't want eternal life.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Pain is pain, suffering is suffering, hurt is hurt and rejection and abandonment are rejection and abandonment no matter if you know you're going to live forever or not. The experience of those things remains the same, regardless. Christ was/is a human being and He experienced those things as a human being. It's the same as how I know, in the deepest part of my being, that I'm an eternal spiritual being that cannot die nor be destroyed, but I still experience suffering and pain due to being in this realm. Detachment doesn't mean that you don't feel. It just means that you're able to put it into perspective. So His sacrifice is still a sacrifice.

 

[Deathbydefault]

If you knew that you would only be dead Friday night and then have eternal life Sunday morning would you willingly go through what Jesus did?

No.
I dislike the idea of living forever.

 

[Thief]

I find the notion of eternal life devalues the sacrifice. I also don't fancy the prospect of an eternity in heavan with all the boring people. that sounds like hell.

I am willing to believe in life after death....
and do so for you as well

If I spent one year of time with one person, moving on to the next and doing so again.....
I would be busy for the next 7billion+ years


but I also believe we are grouped with those of our kindred spirit.
you will spend eternity will others.....just like you.

how else to be happy?
how else to be fair?

 

[OnePointSix18]

What sacrifice is that? I fail to see God taking himself out of the physical world, as he had planned all along, to be sacrificing anything.

Agreed!
I was thinking about the only life we know for sure that we get. While reflecting on the believers counter view to this I had a genuine moment of clarity. I thought about the enormity of the consequences of murder. Allow me to begin with this analogy:

A Christian who's Christian friend happened to be the victim of murder. The surviving Christian is comforted when his religious rationalization kicks in and informs him that, even though a great injustice befell his friend and him, he believes the consequences are short term. His life will continue in the hereafter. Meanwhile apply this scenario to a couple of nonbelievers. The immoral act takes on a mountainous dimension. If the victim, his family and friends were like minded free thinkers then their loss is infinitely magnified. When one walks the path that is marked with evidence, justification and true beliefs, one learns to treasure and value every precious moment in this short life. It truly takes a strong person to resist the imaginary comfort that accompanies wishful thinking. It appears that the free thinker, who adopts sound reasoning for his nonbelief, values life to a greater degree than the religious. Also he recognizes a profound difference brought on by the differing beliefs; one is a temporary setback...soon to be rectified and rewarded and the other .....everlasting and permanent.

 

[Laika]

What sacrifice is that? I fail to see God taking himself out of the physical world, as he had planned all along, to be sacrificing anything.

I you were to do something that you knew was certain to kill you and yet believed in eternal life (as asked by the OP) , it takes the "sting" out of dying. It is only the knowledge that you are going to lose something precious to you, namely your life in this case, which means it is a sacrifice.

I am willing to believe in life after death....
and do so for you as well

If I spent one year of time with one person, moving on to the next and doing so again.....
I would be busy for the next 7billion+ years


but I also believe we are grouped with those of our kindred spirit.
you will spend eternity will others.....just like you.

how else to be happy?
how else to be fair?

I take the notion that your willing to believe I may have an afterlife kindly, but it is not necessary. I intend to live based on the assumption that I only need one life and to be happy and fair in this life. I prefer it this way as I need to make every day mean something.

You know, you got a point! It does devalue that.

<< What Laika said.

Thanks.

 

[Skwim]

I you were to do something that you knew was certain to kill you and yet believed in eternal life (as asked by the OP) , it takes the "sting" out of dying. It is only the knowledge that you are going to lose something precious to you, namely your life in this case, which means it is a sacrifice.

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