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Would You Fly On A Chinese Made Jetliner?

Discussion in 'Consumer Affairs' started by Revoltingest, May 5, 2017.

  1. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    The makers are selling the jetliner, I am sure the buyer has quality requirements. This is not something you pick up at Walmart.
     
  2. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    It says right in the news link:

     
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  3. Wu Wei

    Wu Wei ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson

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    My wife would be the first one to tell you that there is a quality issue with many things made in China by Chinese companies...and she is Chinese, from China. I have talked with a few Americans from American companies in China that say the same thing. If you do not keep on top of the work force, there will be shortcuts made that very likely will effect the quality of what is being produced.

    However, as already discussed, there are those products, that are higher end that are quite good. But you pay for that level of 'quality'.

    China is attempting to change its image at the moment and they do not want anything to interfere with their goal of economic superiority so it is likely the jet is pretty good, at least as good as some of the old crates flying the friendly skies these days, and the chances of being beaten up and dragged off a Chinese airline are slim to none, that is unless you are being a complete jerk and causing major issues.

    Basically what I am saying is I do not think using Harbor Freight as your baseline comparison to a Chinese made airliner is actually valid
     
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  4. suncowiam

    suncowiam Well-Known Member

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    Or possibly, some of us have been here long enough to see a trend of Revoltingest threads and logic to suggest he's not a racist.

    Given, that I'm Asian and I didn't find his post to be racist having history of his previous posts.

    Just reading his post without any history, I can jump to that conclusion.

    Lighten up... It's Friday.
     
  5. Stevicus

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    I've flown on Aeroflot before, back in the 80s. It wasn't too bad. I obviously survived. It was kind of like flying Allegheny Airlines back in the day.

    Besides, I don't think it's a matter of the airplane itself as much as it is the quality of the pilots. US airlines are still using planes which are 30-40 years old, yet they still manage to hold together.
     
  6. columbus

    columbus Conservative Catholic from Hell

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    And it doesn't even have to fail catastrophically to be an economic disaster. If the jets spend time on the ground being serviced, instead of flying and making money for the airline, the airlines aren't going to make a zillion dollar investment in even one plane.
    Today's aircraft market is fiercely competitive. Comac isn't going sell second rate equipment. Airlines aren't dumb bunnies like those people in Revoltistan buying wrenches.
    Tom
     
  7. Nakosis

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    I found this interesting...
    https://www.quora.com/Why-are-Chinese-products-of-such-low-quality
     
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  8. sun rise

    sun rise "Let there be peace and love among all"
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    It does not matter who makes the plane when it comes to airline employees acting like jerks because that's what they're supposed to do by management edict.

    As far as flying on a Chinese plane goes, if the wealthy can make more money by replacing US and EU planes with Chinese planes (while they fly on private jets), we'll be flying on Chinese planes like it or not.
     
  9. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Based on my experience with Chinese manufacturing and quality control standards, I'd err on the side of not flying on it - at least until it had a proven service record over a reasonable course of time.
     
  10. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Personally, I think you are the one that needs to lighten up, I said he was a "bit" racist. We all have our prejudices.
     
  11. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    Well, golly.....I guess finding some examples of quality proves there is no general problem!
     
  12. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    Interesting <snicker>.....
    Tai ben le!
    The Chinese half of me family would disagree on that.
    And me wife (an ABC) agrees with me about what "her people" are up to.

    Remember that I correctly credit the Chinese for inventing wei qi
    (aka "go), one of the greatest achievement of any civilization.
    But communism caused a breakdown of old ways, & its demise
    has created problems as they adapt to the wild west of capitalism.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I agree.
    I also hear that they've outsourced many components to Boeing & Airbus.

    Btw, the OP is tongue in cheek....a reference to many of use who have
    used Chinese hand tools & machine tools....the latter of which often
    requires re-working just to get them to function.
     
  14. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    I suspect people who aren't at least a "bit' racist, are about as plentiful as unicorns.
     
  15. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    That's sexist!
     
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  16. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    Save it for judgement day, I don't really care who you hate, that is between you and the god that does not exist.

    But in all seriousness, I think your bias toward Chinese engineering was obvious, and when I say Chinese I mean the people of the nation of China, not people who are merely of Asiatic ethnicity.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    I agree that it's likely to be a good plane.
    But anyone who bought a cast iron metalworking vise from China,
    & had it break in two only to reveal unmelted scrap within will have
    a case of the willies if on that plane's maiden voyage.

    I know that not everyone can afford a Wilton bullet vise.
    But I stick with those, & Chas Parker, Columbian, Reed, Erie, Paramo, etc.
     
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  18. Jeremiahcp

    Jeremiahcp Well-Known Jerk

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    I think most people would agree with that and I also think most people deny their are bias. Which is a bit hypocritical, but then we are all also a bit hypocritical. The fun part; however, is acting like denial proves the bias.
     
  19. Kilgore Trout

    Kilgore Trout Misanthropic Humanist

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    Indeed. Much like "white privilege."
     
  20. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    You cared enuf to make the accusation....& apparently to suggest it still applies.
    But I forgive you.
    You're misreading.....I didn't criticize Chinese engineering per se.
    I criticized the entire system which has the emergent property of
    sending us a lotta junk.
     
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