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Would you be a martyr?

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Xavier Graham, Sep 26, 2022.

  1. Xavier Graham

    Xavier Graham Your local anarchist. God is Love is Love is Love

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    Bit of a darker question, but would you be a martyr?

    Suppose the government decided that being an adherent to your religion was punishable by death. Then they come knocking on your door, and ask your religion.

    Christians, do you deny Christ?

    Is it okay for you to lie in this situation? How would you be able to hide your religion? I think a Christian could do it easily. Just pray when you're alone. I don't know enough about Judaism or Islam to know if it could be hidden yet practiced.

    Would you simply give up your religious practice?

    How strong is your faith? Is this a measure of your faith?
     
  2. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    I would clearly state my belief if government come to my home and asked.
    If they kill me, that is on them not on me. Because faith and belief are free, no matter what a government think
     
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  3. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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    It is good to be murdered for Truth. I am Quest For Truth.
     
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  4. questfortruth

    questfortruth Well-Known Member

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  5. Truth in love

    Truth in love Well-Known Member

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    Death first.

    I don’t wish to die, but The Savior matters a whole lot more than my mortal life.
     
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  6. stvdv

    stvdv Veteran Member: I Share and Debate NOT

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    True. It's not adviced to be an exhibitionist

    Exactly. Belief is between God and me
     
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  7. stvdv

    stvdv Veteran Member: I Share and Debate NOT

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    Outward practices I can easily give up
    Inward practices they never know
    Religious practices are inward

    No need to give up anything
     
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  8. stvdv

    stvdv Veteran Member: I Share and Debate NOT

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    Strong (compared to 25 years ago)

    No

    Measure of Faith is:
    "practise what I preach"

    But I don't preach
     
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  9. Exaltist Ethan

    Exaltist Ethan Synverse Shaper

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    Ooooh, I want to answer this question! I'm not Abrahamic but I got a take on this.

    If my religion was illegal and believing it meant death for me and anyone else who believes in it, I would attempt to flee the country because my country is currently experiencing spiritual dystopia right now! And if it were either deny my religious beliefs or death, there is only one thing I could do - show them my ring and tell them I'm married to God.
     
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  10. stvdv

    stvdv Veteran Member: I Share and Debate NOT

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    Once my mother asked if I could help her.

    Doctors had given up on her, could not help her anymore. She could not walk and she was in a lot of pain. Could not even stand straight, at best at an angle 90°.Doctor said "wheelchair is all I can offer to you".

    She knew that I had been able to cure many diseases just by diet, so when doctors failed her, she finally asked me for help

    I told her "this won't be easy for you", and I put her on a very restricted diet, more like extreme fasting.

    About "practice what I preach:
    BUT I told her "I do the same as you do; when doing it together it's easier for you, and I will stay at your place also", not even thinking that this was scientific impossible, as I was 20 kg underweight.
    (I only advise others, if asked, what I can do myself also)

    Sai Baba knew of course my problem, so I guess He cured her so fast (8 days), because it otherwise might have killed me. Within 4 days she could walk and stand straight, and after 8 days all problems were gone

    Exactly after 8 days I was unable to continue this fast and was so hungry that I had to start eating again.
     
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  11. InChrist

    InChrist Free4ever

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    Jesus died for me. I would die before denying Him. This life is temporary and short, eternity is forever.
     
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  12. Shaul

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    Jews have been persecuted and martyred for thousands of years. History shows it can happen at any time even when and where least expected. I acknowledge that it could happen to me, but I don't choose to respond by living in fear. Baruch HaShem.
     
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  13. Messianic Israelite

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    Peter was the first disciple to call Yahshua the Messiah and yet he denied Yahshua three times. It's easy to say, yes, I'd be willing to give up my life, or I'd be willing to be tortured for my faith, but do we truly know that people have that strength of character when push comes to shove. But yes, I hope and pray that should Yahweh choose to make a martyr of me that I will unquestionably lay down my life without compromising my faith, just as Yahshua did. I love life, but I love Yahshua more. Without him there would be no hope of eternal life and no way I could repay Yahweh for all his lovingkindness to me.
     
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  14. Xavier Graham

    Xavier Graham Your local anarchist. God is Love is Love is Love

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    I opened up the question for everyone. In my head it made more sense from an Abrahamic view, but after a sleep that don't make sense anyone can answer this :)
     
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  15. icehorse

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    Interesting OP. Might be interesting to broaden the question out beyond religion. How about martyrdom for family, country, or some other values?
     
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  16. VoidCat

    VoidCat Pronouns: they/them/their thon/thons/thonself

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    No. I wouldn't be a martyr. I'd rather hide my beliefs or move elsewhere then die
     
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  17. Psalm23

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    I would hope by God's grace to stand firm in my faith in Jesus . I haven't been put in such a situation. I believe that confessing faith in Christ in these kind of situations demonstrates both the work of God in the individual empowering the person to be bold and the faith of the person.
     
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