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Would sharks and T Rex buried together lean toward the flood?

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Lol!
All you ever make are assertions (and very few references). Show where & how they distorted the evidence!

What "assertion" are you complaining about? I can support my claims. If you had read the articles posted in this link, including the article that the ICR distortion was based upon you would have seen that this was a fresh water shark. Do you need me to go back and get the link for you?

At least you seem to know that ICR does require its employees to swear not to use the scientific method. There may be hope yet.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
Once a hypothesis is proved false, adding more
"evidence" to a lost cause is naieve, and, dumb.

If you were in Cleveland when the prison -murder took
place in Vladivostok, it really wont help the case against
you to bring in more "evidence" against you.

If you were so accused, this would be obvious.

What goes on in your head that you cannot grasp
the same concept here?
"Once a hypothesis is proved false..."

Lol! Only in your narrow mind. You will find out, one day...hope it won't be to your detriment! I don't think so.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
That was a powered vessel lol.
How long did it serve? Huh?
And you think that an unpowered vessel would be more seaworthy? Seriously you need to talk to some people that know a thing or two about ships.

It served for a relatively short time, and that was with the aid of powered sump pumps. The ark would have almost certainly sunk on the first day.

EDIT: And actually it was a vessel under sail. A foundering scow would have done even worse.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
"Once a hypothesis is proved false..."

Lol! Only in your narrow mind. You will find out, one day...hope it won't be to your detriment! I don't think so.

What a clueless naif you can be for a nominally
adult man! Not that we had not seen it before.
Flood-frozen mammoths! :D :D :D

Only in my (narrow mind). We notice you cannot
explain, but nobody could explain nonsense.

But it is how ya see things.
And, after all, with god ya is incapable
of error!


So if you were proven to have been in Hoboken when
the bank was robbed in Saskatoon, the Hockey-did-it
hypothesis is disproved.

Only for the narrow mindrd, sez Hockey!
it would be groovy if the prosecution
kept their hypothesis going for years while H cools
his heels in hoosegow!

"Wait! Hockey was wearing shoes and socks! Right?
That is exactly consistent with what se see in the vid!
The evidence leans more and more!"
 
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Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Hell Creek rock formation in Montana has both shark and T Rex fossils.
Seems to lean toward rather than against the Noah epic.

Data reported in the Journal of Paleontology pp1-19, 21 Jan 2019

What say you?
No, why would it? Sharks were in the ocean before, during, and after dinosaurs existed. Google is really easy to use if you don't want to go to the trouble of reading the text books.
 

Hockeycowboy

Witness for Jehovah
Premium Member
And you think that an unpowered vessel would be more seaworthy? Seriously you need to talk to some people that know a thing or two about ships.

It served for a relatively short time, and that was with the aid of powered sump pumps. The ark would have almost certainly sunk on the first day.

EDIT: And actually it was a vessel under sail. A foundering scow would have done even worse.
Yeah, the account says Jehovah God only gave Noah the instructions on how to build it...and He only brought all the animals to Noah...and He only closed the door.

And then, He only unleashed the waters above and below...

No need to believe that He protected Noah & his family and animals during the Flood. That's just too farfetched!
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Yeah, the account says Jehovah God only gave Noah the instructions on how to build it...and He only brought all the animals to Noah...and He only closed the door.

And then, He only unleashed the waters above and below...

No need to believe that He protected Noah & his family and animals during the Flood. That's just too farfetched!

For a grown man to believe in the flood myth is beyond absurd.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Cool story.
-how did they test the pinhead size parts of teeth to show they were from a shark? Oh it just looked similar.
-sharks live in salt water, how did they live in the fresh water stream/river? Oh I see. They stretched it that back then they could live in either.
-how did... Yeah I could throw a million questions into those assumptions.

While it's interesting, it's all assumptions. It wouldn't pass 13.

You could throw out a million questions....or you could read up on how they come to the conclusions they do first. Certainly trying to stump a lay person on the forum who has no expertise in the field is easier and makes you feel superior.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Hell Creek rock formation in Montana has both shark and T Rex fossils.
Seems to lean toward rather than against the Noah epic.

Data reported in the Journal of Paleontology pp1-19, 21 Jan 2019

What say you?

My first question would be, how do you know it could have been the first flood a million years before the flood of Noah's
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
There was only one global flood
Now there is an assertion that you have never been able to support. The USS Wyoming tells us that you are wrong.


Many modern boats use similar ratios
and 4 students investigated the question and were supposed to find it could float

Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian

However, the Bible is clear on one thing: Noah got specific instructions for the ark’s dimensions (300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high) and material (“gopher wood”). Gopher wood may refer to pine, cedar, or cypress wood.

So, if one could hypothetically build an ark to the specifications outlined in the Bible, and actually cram two of every species on the boat, would it float or would Noah have found himself in a Titanic-like scenario? That’s what four physics graduate students at the University of Leicester wondered. As part of a special course that encourages the students to apply basic physics principles to more general questions, the team did the math and found that an ark full of animals in those dimensions could theoretically float. They recently published their research in a peer-reviewed, student-run publication, the Journal of Physics Special Topics.

“You don’t think of the Bible necessarily as a scientifically accurate source of information, so I guess we were quite surprised when we discovered it would work,” said Thomas Morris, one of the students who worked on the project, in a statement.
 
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whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
No whir, no global flood ever.

You notably avoid the polar ice prob for your fairy tale.

You are too kind but in a post flood scenario the oceans would be warm in a cooling planet
which would be ideal for massive snow production and such a snow machine at the north pole would be ideal for causing a short ice age which would end when the polar cap froze over

It also explains why much of Alaska was not covered with ice even during the ice age while New York was and why Mammoth and Mastodon could live near the arctic sea even in the ice age... the water was warm for most of it... hence hostitable
 

sooda

Veteran Member
You are too kind but in a post flood scenario the oceans would be warm in a cooling planet
which would be ideal for massive snow production and such a snow machine at the north pole would be ideal for causing a short ice age which would end when the polar cap froze over

It also explains why much of Alaska was not covered with ice even during the ice age while New York was and why Mammoth and Mastodon could live near the arctic sea even in the ice age... the water was warm for most of it... hence hostitable

LOLOL.. Does that gibberish pass for science?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Many modern boats use similar ratios
and 4 students investigated the question and were supposed to find it could float

Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian

However, the Bible is clear on one thing: Noah got specific instructions for the ark’s dimensions (300 cubits long, 50 cubits wide and 30 cubits high) and material (“gopher wood”). Gopher wood may refer to pine, cedar, or cypress wood.

So, if one could hypothetically build an ark to the specifications outlined in the Bible, and actually cram two of every species on the boat, would it float or would Noah have found himself in a Titanic-like scenario? That’s what four physics graduate students at the University of Leicester wondered. As part of a special course that encourages the students to apply basic physics principles to more general questions, the team did the math and found that an ark full of animals in those dimensions could theoretically float. They recently published their research in a peer-reviewed, student-run publication, the Journal of Physics Special Topics.

“You don’t think of the Bible necessarily as a scientifically accurate source of information, so I guess we were quite surprised when we discovered it would work,” said Thomas Morris, one of the students who worked on the project, in a statement.



Howsabout you skip theoretical floating
and deal with the fact that there was no flood,
 
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