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Featured Worship of the Personal Self

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Fool, Sep 17, 2021.

  1. Fool

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    jesus said that god is spirit and should be worshiped in spirit


    so why do some worship a man? a beast?


    ecclesiastes 3:18-21
     
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    Seeker of White Light Be who ever you want

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    Do they worship Jesus, or do they worship God through Jesus? if the latter it would be no worship of man, right?
     
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    Do you mean like Jesus? Why do some worship Jesus, a man?
     
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    Because it's where these spirits actually come from.
     
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    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    Because "Beast, Human, and God" are all a part of us.

    Like other Gods (Pan, for example) Christ was all 3: Born amongst animals, raised a man, died a God. And like that, so are we:

    Animals: born in blood, mortal, and dependent upon the natural world (Christ in the manger, Pan, the insatiable sexual beast.)

    Human: the animal most capable of munipulating the environment to suit its needs and the one that faces the existential challenges of seeing itself as an individual within a greater whole. (Christ suffering on the Cross, Pan pitting his rustic pipe against the divine music of Apollo.)

    God: a conscious extension of the Universe, co-creating and capable of peering into the mechanics of reality. (Christ reborn, Pan the fertility God bringing new life in the Spring.)
     
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    There are many paths up the Mountain of Spirit.

    Not All of them pass through Jesus' gates, nor should it.

    If someone can get there through the Self let them.

    It's as valid a path as any other.

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    People routinely confuse the objects and images representing or exemplifying an ideal with the ideal, itself. And "worship" is already the sign of an unhealthy conceptual obsession. So when someone starts worshiping images and objects and symbols as such, they have clearly lost touch with reality, IMO.
     
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    Jesus was flesh. The Station of Christ was the Holy Spirit.

    Jesus confirmed that it was Christ we worship and it is Christ (the Holy Spirit) we come to God through.

    Matthew 16:15 - 17
    15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
    16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
    17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

    Regards Tony
     
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    Hey I use lots of symbols/symbolism and am in touch with reality.
     
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    The Messenger is all we can know of God. It is the Spirit of the Messenger that is our path to knowing all there is about God.

    The person is not worshipped, the beleivers submit to the Spirit that shines from the Messengers.

    Regards Tony
     
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    jesus said you are to worship in Spirit not man
     
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    no worship themselves above others. if god is pantheist then god is in all. if god is omnipresent, then god is in all
     
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    But are you worshiping them?
     
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    the worship of a formed thing over the unformed spirit is idolatry in judaism. actually it would be idolatry in any religion. You're placing an emphasis on a created thing over other created things.
     
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    To an extent. If they are used during worship, that is in effect worshipping them.
     
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    there is what is called the body\mind\spirit complex yes, but these exist at all three levels. you have the chemical, the etheric/energy/astral, and the causal body

    but they do not appear the same at each level
     
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    an attachment could be formed, yes. like the idea of love is an idea and an action; worshiping an image of a cherub/eros would be idolatry.
     
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    Guitar's Cry The "I" in Reality

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    I was speaking more metaphorically, relating two seemingly disparate mythological figures to our human experience. :)
     
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    kinda like a cargo cult for some though. a messenger comes with a spiritual message, a spiritual gift. the gift, the message is the important thing, the delivery has been made. Will the person be delivered into the Spirit of Oneness?


    many will come from the east and west to sit down at the table with Abraham/Brahman. come gather together for that great supper that all share in communion one with another.
     
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    love lifted self upon a very high mountain and showed the way of love, the Law of One

    Revelation 21:10

    with love comes peace.

    love isn't exclusive to christianity, or any religion.
     
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