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Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by iam1me, Aug 26, 2018.

  1. OtherSheep

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    Nope, John didn't write either his Gospel or the Revelation in Hebrew.

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
    Revelation 19:13 "And He [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and His name is called The Word of God."

    John 17:5 "And now, O Father, glorify thou Me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was."

    Matthew 3:16-17 "And Jesus, when He was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon Him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."
    [the Trinity, by order of appearance: Son, Holy Spirit, Heavenly Father]

    Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world."

    I take it you don't believe any of the Elohim verses, either?
     
  2. URAVIP2ME

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    At Revelation 3:12 I find the resurrected ascended-to-heaven Jesus still thinks he has a God over him.
     
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    You need a new teacher-- That is not truth.
     
  4. 2ndpillar

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    There is only one teacher for the children of the kingdom (Matthew 23:8). There are "many" followers of the "false prophets" that go to "destruction" (Matthew 7:13 & 15). As for my post, Matthew 27:9-10 quotes Zechariah 11:12-13 with respect to Judas Iscariot, one of the three shepherds of Zechariah 11:8. The other two are Peter and Paul. Peter fulfills the role of the "worthless shepherd" who "leaves the flock" (Zechariah 11:16-17).
     
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    All who know the real Jesus knows he appointed teachers here in these last days( Matt 24:45) only through these is truth found.
     
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    Obviously you don't know the meaning of Elohim--NEVER plural when used for the true God in the Hebrew language--Your teachers forgot to tell you this fact.
    100% fact--NO TRINITY EXISTS. it was created at the councils of Catholicism.
    The being who came to earth speaks at Proverbs 8--It is not YHVH speaking.
     
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    That is just sick thinking. Jesus clearly said he would build his church upon the rock( Peter)
     
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    Apparently it wasn't that clear, for 800,000,000 Protestants incorrectly think that it is that "Christ is the son of the living God". Although Simon bar Jonas made a place for himself in "the rock" (Isaiah 22:16), and as "the steward" put "in charge of the royal household" (Isaiah 22:15), who was given the keys of the house of David (Isaiah 22:22), he was "deposed" (Isaiah 22:19), and "in that day", will "fall", and those hanging onto his heir, the pope, will be "cut off" (Isaiah 22:25). What the rock (Cephas) is, is the spirit of revelation (Matthew 16:17), the testimony of Yeshua (Revelation 19:10), which the church is built on.
     
  9. 2ndpillar

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    You forget the other side of the coin (Matthew 24:48-49), the slave who beats his servants. The "false prophets" who will "mislead many" (Matthew 24:11). According to Yeshua, there is only one "teacher" for the children of the kingdom (Matthew 23:8) & (1 John 2:27).
     
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    Per Revelation, the "new Jerusalem" comes from heaven to earth. The resurrected will rule on earth (Revelation 20:4).
     
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    You seem confused. Catholicism was never Christian. It was an illusion. There own bible proves their errors. There was never a trinity god. That is a fact of life. Those religions claim to be Christian.
     
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    And his real teachers listen to him carefully and make 100% sure every member of the flock---learn every utterance from God as Jesus taught man must live by them. Not some of them. All of them.
    I share 6 teachings from Jesus and every trinitarian refuses to believe them. Even though all 6 are in their translation as well. Most do not want truth. The bible says they want their ears tickled.
     
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    The term Catholic means "universal Christian". "Their" " bibles" are the bibles adopted by the Protestants. Their Lord's day, is your Lord's day, the day of the sun. Like mother, like daughter. Their false prophets, are your false prophets, plus or minus.
     
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    The message of Yeshua was "repent; the kingdom of heaven is at hand. "Christianity" preaches the false gospel of grace/cross, per the false prophet Paul. One is antithetical to the other.
     
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    The true living God-The Father-YHVH(Jehovah)-- The protestants did not correct most errors.
     
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    The preaching in these last days as well as back then= The good news of the kingdom.( Luke 10, Acts 20:20) One needs to learn and apply every utterance from God. They twist what Paul actually was saying. He is in harmony with Jesus. Jesus appointed Paul according to the bible. Men twist his words.
     
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    "Jesus appointed Paul according" to Paul and Paul's associates. Paul's seed (utterance) was the tare seed, and the lawless (Matthew 7:23) & (Matthew13:41) are tares (Matthew 13:30). Paul's gospel, is the gospel of grace/cross, which is antithetical to the gospel of the kingdom. The "last days", will be the "awesome day of the LORD" (Joel 2:31-32) in which there will be few "survivors" or those who barely "escape" (Matthew 24:22). Not exactly "good news" for the "many" (Matthew 7:13).
     
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    The "Protestants" embraced the "abominations" of Babylon the Great (Revelation 17:5), and her daughter, the Roman Catholic Church. They pretty much all carry the mark of the beast (Revelation 13:11).
     
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    They are a house divided( Mark 3:24-26) they will not stand.
     
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    They are divided because they follow the guy who is all things to all men (1 Corinthians 9:22), and true to none. They will "fall" because they didn't heed the testimony of Yeshua (Matthew 7:24-27).
     
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