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Words Becoming Strange &/or Obsolete

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Revoltingest, Nov 20, 2020 at 1:20 PM.

  1. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    I noticed a Wikipedia entry that used the term, "film", eschewing the term "movie".
    But "film" is or has become an obsolete technology.
    "Movie" isn't rooted in anything so dated.
    Also "film" sounds so pretentious.
    It should die.

    What have you found?
     
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  2. Quetzal

    Quetzal A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
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    "Picture" is similar, since it used to refer to movies I think?
     
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  3. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
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    Indeed...with digital technology...film sounds so anachronistic...
    :p


    Btw in Italian we still say film. We do not have a non-English term for that.
     
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  4. Revoltingest

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    I suggest "movie".
     
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  5. Revoltingest

    Revoltingest I have the kavorka
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    The origins of "picture" are so ancient that it's not
    tied to any modern day obsolete associations.
    I'll keep it, but not "motion picture".
    Or "talkie".
     
  6. beenherebeforeagain

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    it was 'moving pictures,' because pictures originally--and still does--refer to still pictures...
     
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  7. Estro Felino

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    I have never understood the difference between image and picture...
     
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    etymological origins in different languages, maybe?
     
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  9. Estro Felino

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    Yes...indeed...I tend to use image more because it is similar in my language...:)
     
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    How about "video". It is a Latin based term. Surely there is an Italian equivalent.
     
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    Short for " moving pictures ".
     
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    In a funny microcosm, sci fi used to use 'jacked in' in books like William Gibson's writing (from which was drawn on for movies like The Matrix and games like Shadowrun) to represent connecting directly to the net or matrix (which also comes from Gibson) all the time. But in around 20 years we've realized that soon nobody is going to be using cable connections to the internet anymore and wireless systems have replaced 'jacked in' systems in fiction.
     
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    I too don't like film. Film is a bunch of different things. Movie is a movie. An odd word, but I concluded as a kid that at least it has an odd conjuration for move, and movies are moving pictures, so it works.
    I don't like the turning they into a singular pronoun.
    I don't like "man crap" like "man sandals;" "man hug;" "man purse," "man bun" (I just hate the existence of those); "man thong;" or "manties."
    I don't like how "hack" gets applied to basically everything that is not hacking or hacking related.
    I don't like how the word "experience" is everywhere now.
    I don't like advertising language, spelling, and grammar abuses. It is "drive through" not "drive thru."
    I don't like that every so often we're not supposed to say certain things anymore and say other words instead. It really is the context and meaning that counts, because we are capable of turning anything into an insult and demeaning word. Even if it's made up on the spot. Even if it's normally a compliment. We're good at that.
     
  14. Shadow Wolf

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    I suspect we'll still be "jacked in" at the core of things because ultimately a wired connection is still better, so it may become a literary device to emphasis a certain motif.
     
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    In English English too, the word is film. "Movie" is an American usage, so far as I know.
     
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    Exactly.
    I go to the pictures in town if I want to watch a film.
     
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    one example I came across:
    gibberish
    which comes from the activities of the magi who would jibber their ingredients ....separate the coarse from the fine, and speak of it in their odd language......which eventually morphed into meaning something that is unintelligible and only referring to speech, and always in a denigrating sense with the implication of a put down comment......

    strange that we all talk about the same things in so many different ways, but it all means just one thing in essence at the end of the day.
    sky, or dirt, means the same thing no matter what it is called....to express it in just one way [any specific language] has no special significance that is more meaningful over any other way of naming it.
    This all has only generated lots of confusion for people in disseminating meaning from words and languages.
    The more specialized or obscure a language is, the more potential for being enigmatic and argued about regarding meaning.
     
  18. ChristineM

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    @MNoBody

    I use gibberish all the time, its still common where i was dragged up
     
  19. Father Heathen

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    "Soft drink".
     
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    I stopped saying "pop" and started saying "soda" long before I moved out of Indiana. But it still felt weird when I did move here and other people were saying soda after so many years of hearing pop and coke (as in Southern "little c" coke that means all of them).
     
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