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"Word": Is there a person who invented any "word" of any natural or ordinary language?

ecco

Veteran Member
My emphases

How our ancestors from million of years could have done, please?

These are not words as per definition of a word, source given in the OP, please.

It is a scientific term not exactly a word and it is borrowed from German language, please.
Right, please?


Please try to use the word "please" appropriately. Every one of your above comments is correct without the word "please". None of them require the word "please".
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
No. Most words "evolved" from earlier versions of the word and from earlier versions of the language.

English words for newer things like car, spaceship, gasoline, thermonuclear were probably created.

English words older things like dog and person evolved from earlier languages.
Dog
Origin
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Person
Origin
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Look up "etymology".
"car"

"car (n.)
," from Anglo-French carre, Old North French carre, from Vulgar Latin *carra, related to Latin carrum, carrus (plural carra), originally "two-wheeled Celtic war chariot," from Gaulish karros, a Celtic word (compare Old Irish and Welsh carr "cart, wagon," Breton karr "chariot"), from PIE *krsos, from root *kers- "to run."

"From 16th to 19th c. chiefly poetic, with associations of dignity, solemnity, or splendour ..." [OED]. Used in U.S. by 1826 of railway freight carriages and of passenger coaches on a railway by 1830; by 1862 of streetcars or tramway cars. Extension to "automobile" is by 1896, but from 1831 to the first decade of 20c. the cars meant "railroad train." Car bomb first attested 1972, in reference to Northern Ireland. The Latin word also is the source of Italian and Spanish carro, French char.
car | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

The word "car" also existed from c. 1300, "wheeled vehicle".

Regards
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
They are proper nouns of territories and or countries.
A proper noun is a specific (i.e., not generic) name for a particular person, place, or thing.
Word has a relationship/effects with other words in a sentence and its value is determined from other words in a sentence it is used. Proper names have a fixed value that does not change and is not determined by other words in a sentence. That is the difference. Right, please?

Common Nouns and Proper Nouns
You probably already know what a noun is, but I'm still going to give you a little refresher. :) <a href="What is a noun? Learn what nouns are and what they can do.">Nouns</a> are words that name people, places, things, or ideas. There are many different <a href="List of Nouns: Examples to Help You">types of nouns</a>, and in this lesson, we'll go over two of them: common and proper.
In other words, nouns are words, regardless if they're common or proper.



Proper Nouns | What are proper nouns?
Remember that everything we can see or discuss is represented by a word that names it. That word is called a noun. All nouns can be categorized into one of two groups: common nouns and proper nouns. This entry is about proper nouns, but it is worth learning about proper nouns and common nouns at the same time.
 

Dan From Smithville

Recently discovered my planet of origin.
Staff member
Premium Member
Perhaps you should explain the difference instead of breaking eggs.. How is the meaning of the two sentences different?
Isn't it obvious. They are the same thing said two different ways. They aren't different. I was just being facetious.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
15 Words Invented by Shakespeare
  • Bandit. Henry VI, Part 2. 1594.
  • Critic. Love's Labour Lost. 1598.
  • Dauntless. Henry VI, Part 3. 1616.
  • Dwindle. Henry IV, Part 1. 1598.
  • Elbow (as a verb) King Lear. 1608.
  • Green-Eyed (to describe jealousy) The Merchant of Venice. 1600.
  • Lackluster. As You Like It. 1616.
  • Lonely. Coriolanus. 1616.
shakespeare original words - Google Search

Tom
"Dwindle"
"dwindle (v.)

"diminish, become less, shrink," 1590s (Shakespeare), apparently diminutive and frequentative of dwine "waste or pine away," from Middle English dwinen "waste away, fade, vanish," from Old English dwinan, from Proto-Germanic *dwinana (source also of Dutch dwijnen "to vanish," Old Norse dvina, Danish tvine "to pine away," Low German dwinen), from PIE *dheu- (3) "to die" (see die (v.)). Related: Dwindled; dwindling."
dwindle | Search Online Etymology Dictionary
  • It is obvious that the word "Dwindle" already existed, as demonstrated above. It is one reason that Shakespeare did not and could not claim that he had created it.
  • In addition Shakespeare was a dramatist so he would use only such words which were not new to create drama effect .
Right?

Regards
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
If they are not words, what are they??? Proper nouns ARE words.
But okay, try these:
100 New Words with Meanings and Sentences
New words are made up all the time...how can you fail to understand that except through willful ignorance?
The very first word from the above said to be "100 New Words with Meanings and Sentences" is "accidial", when put for search in the online Oxford English dictionary* returns the result "No exact matches found for "accidial" "English Dictionary, Thesaurus, & Grammar Help | Lexico.com
*Oxford English Dictionary - English | Oxford Dictionaries

They don't yet consider it a new English natural language word. Right?

Regards
 

ecco

Veteran Member
"car"

"car (n.)
," from Anglo-French carre, Old North French carre, from Vulgar Latin *carra, related to Latin carrum, carrus (plural carra), originally "two-wheeled Celtic war chariot," from Gaulish karros, a Celtic word (compare Old Irish and Welsh carr "cart, wagon," Breton karr "chariot"), from PIE *krsos, from root *kers- "to run."

"From 16th to 19th c. chiefly poetic, with associations of dignity, solemnity, or splendour ..." [OED]. Used in U.S. by 1826 of railway freight carriages and of passenger coaches on a railway by 1830; by 1862 of streetcars or tramway cars. Extension to "automobile" is by 1896, but from 1831 to the first decade of 20c. the cars meant "railroad train." Car bomb first attested 1972, in reference to Northern Ireland. The Latin word also is the source of Italian and Spanish carro, French char.
car | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

The word "car" also existed from c. 1300, "wheeled vehicle".

Regards
Thanks for the feedback. Live and learn.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
The very first word from the above said to be "100 New Words with Meanings and Sentences" is "accidial", when put for search in the online Oxford English dictionary* returns the result "No exact matches found for "accidial" "English Dictionary, Thesaurus, & Grammar Help | Lexico.com
*Oxford English Dictionary - English | Oxford Dictionaries

They don't yet consider it a new English natural language word. Right?

Regards

Not all words are in all dictionaries......Duh!!!!
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
"Word": Is there a person who invented any "word" of any natural or ordinary language?

And time (history) and space (its location or people) are important dimensions of a natural language and the natural "word/s" it has. And a "new word" can't become a natural "word" until it mills down in these two dimensions to qualify to become a natural "word" of a language.
Right ?

Regards


 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
"Word": Is there a person who invented any "word" of any natural or ordinary language?

And time (history) and space (its location or people) are important dimensions of a natural language and the natural "word/s" it has. And a "new word" can't become a natural "word" until it mills down in these two dimensions to qualify to become a natural "word" of a language.
Right ?

Regards


A word becomes a word as soon as it is coined by someone. Even if only one person uses the word, it is still a word. You can make up a new word yourself right now if you want to. Neither time nor history are important. Dictionaries do not produce words, and do not decide for the users of the word what the meanings of the word are. They only describe the usage as it exists, which may change over time.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
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Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Now we take the 2nd word from the list said to be "100 New Words with Meanings and Sentences" the next word "agender" with meaning given "people do not identify as male or female"

"No results were found for "agender"." @ agender | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

And Wikia.org:
"Agender" describes "Agender" is a term which can be literally translated as 'without gender'.

Right?

Regards
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#130

I am so sorry you don't know how to search for things of Google...here is my search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=age.....69i57j0l5.3870j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

agender is a word, right???????
 
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paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Jeep. First occurrence in Thimble Theater by Elzie C. Segar. March 1936.
"Jeep"
Its etymology or history dimension is:

2 entries found
"jeep (n.)
early 1941, American English military slang, acronym from G.P., abbreviation of General Purpose (car), but certainly influenced by Eugene the Jeep (who had extraordinary powers but said only "jeep"), from E.C. Segar's comic strip "Thimble Theater" (home of Popeye the Sailor). Eugene the Jeep first appeared in the strip March 13, 1936. The vehicle was in development from 1940, and the Army planners' initial term for it was light reconnaissance and command car."

"veep (n.)

1949, American English, apparently coined from V.P., abbreviation of vice president, perhaps modeled on jeep, which was then in vogue. Introduced by Alben W. Barkley (1877-1956), Harry Truman's vice president. According to the "Saturday Evening Post," "his grandchildren, finding Vice-President too long, call him that." The magazines quickly picked it up, especially when the 71-year-old Barkley married a 38-year-old widow (dubbed the Veepess).

Barkley says word "Veep" is not copyrighted, and any vice president who wants to can use it. But he hopes not many will. [U.S. Department of State wireless bulletin, 1949]
"Time," tongue in cheek, suggested the president should be Peep, the Secretary of State Steep, and the Secretary of Labor Sleep."
jeep | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

So, it is a "American English military slang, acronym"and not a word exactly.
Right?

Regards
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Another dimension of a "word" is its currency/speed/velocity of spread.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I am so sorry you don't know how to search for things of Google...here is my search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=age.....69i57j0l5.3870j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

agender is a word, right???????
It is OK that one has a different opinion.
Nevertheless, it is a slight twist to the already existing natural word "gender" with a prefix "a", like asunder:
asunder (adv.)
"into a position apart, separate, into separate parts," mid-12c., contraction of Old English on sundran (see a- (1) + sunder). Middle English used to know asunder for "distinguish, tell apart."
asunder | Search Online Etymology Dictionary
I don't agree that there is anything of a creation in the term "agender" while both parts already existed. Right?

Regards
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
It is OK that one has a different opinion.
Nevertheless, it is a slight twist to the already existing natural word "gender" with a prefix "a", like asunder:
asunder (adv.)
"into a position apart, separate, into separate parts," mid-12c., contraction of Old English on sundran (see a- (1) + sunder). Middle English used to know asunder for "distinguish, tell apart."
asunder | Search Online Etymology Dictionary
I don't agree that there is anything of a creation in the term "agender" while both parts already existed. Right?

Regards
But it is a new word nonetheless. And that demonstrates that words (and languages) are created by humans.
 
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