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Woman Charged For Going Topless In Front Of Stepchildren

Discussion in 'Ethics and Morals' started by Skwim, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. Skwim

    Skwim Veteran Member

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    "SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah woman charged with a crime after her stepchildren saw her topless in her own home is fighting the case that could force her to register as a sex offender, pointing to a court ruling that overturned a topless ban in Colorado and helped fuel a movement.

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    Tilli Buchanan’s attorneys argue that Utah’s law on lewdness involving a child is unfair because it treats men and women differently for baring their chests. They are asking a judge to overturn her misdemeanor charges and declare that part of the law unconstitutional.

    Prosecutors counter that nudity is commonly understood to include women’s breasts in American society and that courts have upheld laws based on morality.

    “It was in the privacy of my own home,” Buchanan said after a court hearing Tuesday where a judge said she plans to rule in the coming months. “My husband was right next to me in the same exact manner that I was, and he’s not being prosecuted.”

    Buchanan, 27, said she and her husband had taken off their shirts to keep their clothes from getting dusty while they hung drywall in their garage in a Salt Lake City suburb in late 2017 or early 2018.

    When her husband’s three children, ages 9 through 13, walked in, she “explained she considers herself a feminist and wanted to make a point that everybody should be fine with walking around their house or elsewhere with skin showing,” her lawyers said in court documents.

    Buchanan was charged with three counts of misdemeanor lewdness involving a child in February. It came after child welfare officials began an investigation involving the kids that wasn’t related to Buchanan."
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  2. Milton Platt

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    How does going topless in front of a child make you a sex offender, whether in or out of your home? Aren't women allowed to breastfeed in that state? are all moms going to be arrested for that as well?
    With all the actual crime there is to deal with, why is the police spending resources on tripe like this?
     
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  3. KAT-KAT

    KAT-KAT Well-Known Member

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    The person who reported it was a jealous ex-wife of the husband.
     
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    In her own home, no ones business.
     
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  5. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    What the article doesn't mention is that the criminal complaint was filed by her husbands ex-wife, the mother of the children. Pretty plainly a case of vindictive, vexatious complaint, and I hope the court treats it as such.
     
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  6. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...

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    The ex-wife must be a Trump voter:

    "Lock her up! Lock her up!"
     
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  8. crossfire

    crossfire Antinomian feminist heretic freak ☿
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    Nothing sexual about this case. Throw it out.
     
  9. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    OMIGOD! CHILDREN SAW BOSOMS?1?!

    Did their eyes melt out of their heads? Did the nation fall into anarchy? Did the world end?

    Good freaking grief! Grow up, America. Humans have bodies, bodies have parts, we know what they look like.
     
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  10. Skwim

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    Just as a matter of information, re. public toplessness.



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    "The green colored states are those where “top freedom” is in effect.

    The orange colored ones have ambiguous state laws on the matter.

    The red colored ones are the ones where the mere showing of the female breast in public is illegal according to state law.


    Many municipalities within the states and provinces where such toplessness is legal have ordinances, however, that prevent such a liberal dress code in public places such as parks, beaches, etc. under the guise of “disorderly conduct” or “public lewdness” related to their “nude” display. While most of these ordinances are likely illegal themselves, they continue to be enforced and will continue to be so until they are challenged in a court of law."
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  11. beenherebeforeagain

    beenherebeforeagain Rogue Animist
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    No, but cats and dogs did start living together in peace...
     
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  12. sun rise

    sun rise "This is the Hour of God"
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    I can't wait for the Taliban to file a friend of the court brief that convicting her is a good first step. Or perhaps extremist Christians. Or both.
     
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  13. Heyo

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    Only in the US.
    Edit after reading Skwim's post:
    Only in Utah (Tennessey or Indiana).
     
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  14. SomeRandom

    SomeRandom Still learning to be wise

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    Utterly ridiculous. I saw more nudity on free to air tv as a kid.
    Ahh French movies.
     
  15. KAT-KAT

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    I've heard a good comment about this, though. It's:

    "Janet Jackson better hope the statute of limitations is in her favor for what happened at the Super Bowl."
     
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  16. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    So this Feminist was making a feminist statement rather than seeking comfort while working on drywall erection??

    Oh well......... you have two kinds of idiocy there, the weirdest kinds of legislation that I could never trust, and an idiot who thinks that erecting drywalls topless (any gender) is a safe practice.

    So this is just a popcorn case imo.
     
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  17. Skwim

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    Err, why should she have been seeking comfort?

    Granted that clothes do protect a person to some degree or another when doing most things, but having put up my share of drywall I don't see any overriding need for wearing a top of some kind.

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  18. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    By the word comfort I refer to the common sense of comfortable, safe and secure clothing when working with cutting, drilling and impact tools.

    If you want to carry out such work when topless, good luck to you.

    The woman and the local legislation are idiots both. :D
     
  19. Skwim

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    All I've ever needed was a pencil, measuring tape, drywall T-square, drill with a phillips head bit, a utility knife, and a step ladder. :shrug:

    Me thinks bare female breasts embarrass you. ;).

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    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    What an obtuse idea, that health, safety and comfort at work mindsets are, thus, embarrassed by breasts.
     
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