With 4100 Americans dead in one day, why did God think viruses were a good idea?

[ChristineM]

Oh that, yes the world is good. Doesn't mean that cat don't kill birds or lions eat grass.
It means good - without defining what good is.
Earthquakes are 'bad' but they relieve stresses in the subduction plates which keep
renewing the landscape, causing rainfall through mountains and stop the oceans from
silting up - so that's 'good' too. Depends how you want to view life.

Are you arguing with god or just the bible?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

One possibility is that humanity is learning a lesson - the hard way - about reaping what we sow.

Nice lesson -- killing the good doctors and nurses who are trying to help others. Did they also reap what they sowed?

 

[SalixIncendium]

Nice lesson -- killing the good doctors and nurses who are trying to help others. Did they also reap what they sowed?

I think @sun rise was referring to humanity in general, not specific people.

Humans bring suffering, not any God.

 

[exchemist]

I have no answers to my own questions, obviously, but I thought maybe some of the more religious members could give me some insight into the presumed benefit that we inherit from this one part of God's creation...

I recently read an article suggesting that viruses play a big part in accelerating evolutionary change, by the way they add bits to DNA and transfer them between organisms. So maybe they are not all bad and we need them.

 

[ecco]

With 4100 Americans dead in one day, why did God think viruses were a good idea?

I have no answers to my own questions

As always, God needed more angels in heaven.

He seems rather insatiable in his need for adoration, sorta' like Trump.

 

[firedragon]

I have no answers to my own questions, obviously, but I thought maybe some of the more religious members could give me some insight into the presumed benefit that we inherit from this one part of God's creation...

Just out of curiosity, you are asking about a "presumed benefit" but how did you "presume" that it was?

 

[firedragon]

As always, God needed more angels in heaven.

He seems rather insatiable in his need for adoration, sorta' like Trump.

Did God tell you this?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Anyway, with regard to the OP, it was people, not any God, that thought "viruses were a good idea," at least with regard to the virus you appear to be referencing in the title of the thread. It was people that created the virus, and people that spread the virus. I didn't see any mention in my research of any God having anything to do with the virus' creation and spread.

Sorry, but people did not "create" the virus. It arose naturally in animals, and was passed to humans in a market place. This has happened many times before.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Just out of curiosity, you are asking about a "presumed benefit" but how did you "presume" that it was?

Well, if everything was created by God, and God saw that it was "good," one must presume that viruses (part of creation, don't you know) must have something good about them.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Sorry, but people did not "create" the virus. It arose naturally in animals, and was passed to humans in a market place. This has happened many times before.

Apologies for being unclear. What I meant to say is that it was people that infected themselves by having bats (or pangolins) in a live animal marketplace. It was human action that resulted in their contracting the virus. It wasn't a God.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Apologies for being unclear. What I meant to say is that it was people that infected themselves by having bats (or pangolins) in a live animal marketplace. It was human action that resulted in their contracting the virus. It wasn't a God.

What does it matter if it was bats or pangolins? It could have been chickens -- it has been in the past.

 

[firedragon]

Well, if everything was created by God, and God saw that it was "good," one must presume that viruses (part of creation, don't you know) must have something good about them.

So your God concept is the God of Genesis! Understood. Yet even then, do you mean "viruses as a concept" or "this particular virus that killed 4000 plus Americans"?

 

[SalixIncendium]

What does it matter if it was bats or pangolins? It could have been chickens -- it has been in the past.

To my knowledge, chickens were not know to carry SARS-CoV or SARS-like-COVs. These animals were.

Review of Bats and SARS

And humans still choice to have them in a populated live animal marketplace.

Also, you're ignoring my statements that it wasn't a God that is responsible for the initial infection or spread of the virus. This was the point of what I initially stated.

 

[robocop (actually)]

I have no answers to my own questions, obviously, but I thought maybe some of the more religious members could give me some insight into the presumed benefit that we inherit from this one part of God's creation...

The virus brought humanity together to care for each other under testing circumstances. Home-working wood help with climate change. The virus helped us advance our science to get a vaccine. It was the only way Joe Biden wood win the election. Those are just a few of many things the virus did that were good.

 

[PureX]

God doesn't favor one form of being over another, like we do, apparently. Every form that can exist gets it's chance. We don't like this because we're all about ourselves. But then we aren't God. We don't get to create a universe according to our own desires. And we don't understand what such a task entails.

 

[Audie]

Clearly this has nothing to do with a god that doses not exist. But what an irony that a virus in some ways brought down a president and unveiled the cause of why denying the science is allowed so many to die intentionally. Let me think what stopped the Martians from invading the Earth? I think it was a virus, what an ironic prediction of what was to come. A man who thought he could be king in some ways brought down by a virus, the simplest biological life. What an irony. Of course it does not hurt to be totally narcissistic and ignorant of what is important to the people.

Thou waxeth exceedingly far fetched

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So your God concept is the God of Genesis! Understood. Yet even then, do you mean "viruses as a concept" or "this particular virus that killed 4000 plus Americans"?

4000?? How about 369,000, right now it's 4,000 per DAY. Oh, and over 1,900,000 in the world.

But yes, viruses in general, which have killed -- quite literally -- billions.

 

[firedragon]

4000?? How about 369,000, right now it's 4,000 per DAY. Oh, and over 1,900,000 in the world.

But yes, viruses in general, which have killed -- quite literally -- billions.

Okay. let me rephrase the question to suit you.

do you mean "viruses as a concept" or "this particular virus that killed 369,000 plus Americans"?

You answered "all viruses".

So do you think that humans could survive perfectly with out viruses as a whole?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

So your God concept is the God of Genesis! Understood.

Well, you know, we all get the god concept we were born into. If you think you have a better one, you're free to demonstrate it. But please, don't just tell me you do. I gave up listening to that sort of nonsense long ago. Prove it.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

With all the evidence used to assert that the Earth was "created with humans in mind," one could just as easily argue (with the same caliber of evidence, no doubt) that the world was created with viruses in mind. Or trees, or plankton, or slugs, or earthworms, or flies, or mosquitos. You'd probably just have to draw the line at anything extinct, I suppose.