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Will Dan Bilzerian Be President?

Discussion in 'The Political World' started by Hubert Farnsworth, Aug 21, 2019.

  1. Saint Frankenstein

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    Because I don't approve of people's addictions - it could be a dependency on the Internet for all I care - I'm a "fundie Christian prude"? That's ridiculous. Sex is wonderful and good and should be celebrated but an excess of anything is problematic. And what "sexual lifestyle" do LGBT people have in common? We don't have one.
     
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  2. Hubert Farnsworth

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    What makes you assume that all addictions should be "disapproved of?" I don't think addiction is a good thing, but it may not always be bad. You are assuming it is always bad because you have been told so by society. I think addictions are usually bad, but to claim an excess of anything is always bad may not be correct.
     
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    Addictions are always bad, categorically, as it's a disease. It's like saying the flu isn't always bad. You're posting nonsense now.
     
  4. Hubert Farnsworth

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    Addiction is only a disease because it is subjectively defined as such by many people. The flu is an actual disease. It is a VIRUS transmitted from person to person that causes suffering. Clearly it is always bad. Addiction is not comparable to the flu. It's usually bad, I agree, but some addictions may be good, like an addiction to exercise. Also, many people are able to manage their addictions so that the addictions don't control their lives, a.k.a. functional addicts. I see Bilzerian as a functional sex addict. It may not be ideal, but I don't think we should say it is "bad" as that is subjective.
     
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    You are probably one of those people who thinks mental illnesses are just made up or something. :facepalm: Addiction is a neurological condition caused by the brain's reward system malfunctioning. You can be genetically predisposed to it through your family history. Exercise addiction can kill you but will cause a number of other health problems first. A "functional addict" still has a disease. You don't know what you're talking about.
     
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  6. Hubert Farnsworth

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    I recognize that mental illnesses are real, but many so-called illnesses are falsely categorized as illnesses. Homosexuality was once seen as a mental illness, which of course it is not. I also believe that ADHD is not a mental illness in most cases, but is instead a manifestation of a personality better suited to fast-paced, action-packed environments. Many people with Asperger's Syndrome are told they are mentally ill simply because they are more analytical and less in tune with social cues, when in reality, they are just different, and not ill. Again, I don't disagree that MOST addictions are harmful. But some may not be.
     
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    Again, you don't know what you're talking about. Asperger's isn't a mental illness, not like major depression. It's a developmental disorder. ADHD is a mental illness. It includes inability to pay attention, hyperactivity and impulsive behaviors:
    "People who have ADHD have combinations of these symptoms:

    • Overlook or miss details, make careless mistakes in schoolwork, at work, or during other activities
    • Have problems sustaining attention in tasks or play, including conversations, lectures, or lengthy reading
    • Seem to not listen when spoken to directly
    • Fail to not follow through on instructions, fail to finish schoolwork, chores, or duties in the workplace, or start tasks but quickly lose focus and get easily sidetracked
    • Have problems organizing tasks and activities, such as doing tasks in sequence, keeping materials and belongings in order, keeping work organized, managing time, and meeting deadlines
    • Avoid or dislike tasks that require sustained mental effort, such as schoolwork or homework, or for teens and older adults, preparing reports, completing forms, or reviewing lengthy papers
    • Lose things necessary for tasks or activities, such as school supplies, pencils, books, tools, wallets, keys, paperwork, eyeglasses, and cell phones
    • Become easily distracted by unrelated thoughts or stimuli
    • Forgetful in daily activities, such as chores, errands, returning calls, and keeping appointments
    Signs of hyperactivity and impulsivity may include:

    • Fidgeting and squirming while seated
    • Getting up and moving around in situations when staying seated is expected, such as in the classroom or in the office
    • Running or dashing around or climbing in situations where it is inappropriate, or, in teens and adults, often feeling restless
    • Being unable to play or engage in hobbies quietly
    • Being constantly in motion or “on the go,” or acting as if “driven by a motor”
    • Talking nonstop
    • Blurting out an answer before a question has been completed, finishing other people’s sentences, or speaking without waiting for a turn in conversation
    • Having trouble waiting his or her turn
    • Interrupting or intruding on others, for example in conversations, games, or activities"
    NIMH » Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD): The Basics

    As for homosexuality, that was a sign of the times but it was an improvement over being seen as demonically possessed or just evil. The scientific evidence led to it being removed from being classified as an illness.
     
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    sounds over-qualified when compared to the current office holder. but, no.....he isn't electable. LOL
     
  9. Hubert Farnsworth

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    Or maybe kids with ADHD are just kids being kids who are bored with being forced to be sedentary in a classroom for 40 hours a week memorizing dates and names of historical figures and other things they will forget and never use. Ever thought of that? Maybe it is a result of a failed educational system combined with a sedentary lifestyle rather than an actual mental illness. One thing I can tell you: it is overdiagnosed and doctors putting kids on Ritalin (basically speed) is NOT the answer.
     
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    You have no clue what you're talking about. Go read about it. I gave you a link.
     
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    Actually, I do. Exercise helps ADHD, indicating that it could very well be a result of bored kids living a sedentary lifestyle. Exercise and ADHD: Dental Floss for Your Brain

    If I ever have excitable kids who don't want to sit still, I'll tell them to go play outside, not take them to a closed-minded doctor that prescribes them speed.
     
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    Exercise helps people feel better in general, including people with depression, but that doesn't mean major depression isn't a mental illness. No, you don't know what you're talking about and I'm done trying with you. You sound similar to anti-vax cranks and I don't waste my time with them, either.
     
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    No, I'm not an anti-vax crank. I think ADHD is overdiagnosed and I think giving kids speed is a bad idea. Anyway, we're off topic.
     
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    Ritalin is a good treatment for those who actually have ADHD.
     
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    Perhaps it has some use, but I think it's a dangerous drug that is carelessly prescribed to far too many kids.
     
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    If it didn't have any use for treatment, it never would've been approved for it in the first place. Regardless, what matters is the evidence, not your personal opinion. I'm done.
     
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