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Wild pigs kill ISIS militants
- Thread starter David1967
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leibowde84
Veteran Member
Invaded?! I think you've got that backwards. Israel was made a nation in 1948. Did you forget that Egypt invaded/occupied gaza in 1957?
Egypt's and the Arab states refusal to acknowledge Israel as a nation doesn't mean much. They thought they would be able to defeat Israel in a war ... they fought and they lost.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
God ... I hate when people use that as evidence on this site. I read the news every day. Obviously, I haven't read anything about evidence showing that the US supports the Al Nusra Front. Can you provide some? Can you be an adult?
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leibowde84
Veteran Member
I was referring to the Gaza strip ...
The occupation of the Gaza Strip by Egypt occurred between 1948 and October 1956 and again from March 1957 to June 1967. From September 1948, until its dissolution by Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser in 1959, the Gaza Strip was officially administered by the All-Palestine Government. Although largely symbolic, the government was recognized by most members of the Arab League. Following its dissolution, Egypt did not annex the Gaza Strip but left it under military rule pending a resolution of the Palestine question.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
You made the claim. It's your responsibility to back it up.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
You are wrong. The US doesn't support Al Nusra directly. Our allies supposedly used to, but that was only according to Al Nusra's leader, who, obviously, isn't trustworthy.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I did. There is nothing, beyond claims from Al Nusra's leader, that confirms this. And, if you are going to take the word of Al Nusra's leader about this, that says a lot.
Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
Hasn't enough been said to be able to judge the quality of the opinion you're trying to argue with?
rubbish!!
leibowde84
Veteran Member
You don't think we have a responsibility to support claims we make?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
That's how it works. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. Why should you be burdened with providing evidence if I claim the sky is purple?
Wirey
Fartist
It is? Man, I don't get this planet at all.
Maybe you should report me to the management for "not supporting my claims". Good luck!!
gnomon
Well-Known Member
So that was a no.
In my honest opinion.
Serious subjects should not be diluted with nonsense.
You want to make an argument.....make it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
It's not a rule here or listed anywhere in the TOS. Rather, it's how logic and debate work. Of course those not making the claim can provide evidence to the contrary, but formally the one making the claim is also supposed to be the one who provides evidence to support their claim. Otherwise I can say I have a 15-feet tall giant living next door. Now with you living in northern Mexico, this means it is not feasible for you to provide evidence to the contrary. But we also know that people do not get to be 15-feet tall. So why should you provide evidence? After all I'm the one who is claiming to live next to a giant, but I have provided no evidence to support this claim. Thus, logically, because we know people do not get that tall (it's several feet taller than the tallest person ever recorded), we can dismiss this claim because there is no supporting evidence provided.
Ergo, the burden of proof falls on the one making the claim. Even Benjamin Franklin and Louis Pasteur had to provide evidence of their claims concerning lighting and bacteria.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Until evidence is provided, don't get upset if no one believes you or takes you seriously.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
This is a debate forum though. Why wouldn't you want to support your claims?