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Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Useless2015, Nov 23, 2015.

  1. Useless2015

    Useless2015 Active Member

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    Can some Christian explain this to me...God in the Old Testament is full of hatred, revenge. And in the New Testament, God loves everyone...What happened?
    Also another question..In the Old Testament God commands the Jews to slaughter everything that moves..If Jesus is God, was it Jesus that commanded the Jews to slaughter?
     
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    Revoltingest Ignorant Atheist Capitalist Engineer Libertarian
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    The OT was a prototype, & fared poorly in beta testing.
    Per focus group suggestions, they completely redesigned it for the NT.
     
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  3. FearGod

    FearGod Freedom Of Mind

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    Whereas his 2nd coming will be bloody.
     
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  4. Jayhawker Soule

    Jayhawker Soule <yawn> ignore </yawn>
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    Oh yeah! Another newbie bible-basher asking the adolescent questions that have beed addressed over and over again. How special.
     
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  5. BSM1

    BSM1 Have you seen the remote?

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    A lot of men mellow out after they have a kid.
     
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    No offence ,but you need to read what you are talking about. God in the Old Testament was pretty tough, but never commanded the Jews to slaughter everything that moves. He did command them to kill some ,but also to spare some. That being said, I am glad we don't live in Old Testament times.

    And in the New Testament Jesus was critical of certain people, just not the ones that the religious powers of that time thought He should be.
     
  7. Useless2015

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    I am not bashing mate, i am asking questions. Everything i said, comes from the Bible. Are you claiming that i made this up?
    And you are lucky that i didnt ask about the Talmud:)
     
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  8. Rick O'Shez

    Rick O'Shez Irishman bouncing off walls

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    The only reason for the OT is so that the fundies have something to quote from. :p
     
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  9. David1967

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    OK, so when did you change your religion from ice cream?:p
     
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    No offense taken because i know what i am talking about.
    He commanded them to kill children, women, men, animals even trees. Can you answer the question tho..? What happened to God that he changed his mind from 'Slaughter everyone' to 'I love everyone'?
     
  11. Rick O'Shez

    Rick O'Shez Irishman bouncing off walls

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    I achieved the Intrinsic Purity of Vanilla and the Tantric Triad of Neapolitan so it was time to move on up. :p
     
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    To the first; Yes He did command them to kill,"children, women, men, animals", as you said , but, He did not always command this. I agree with you that the Old Testament time was a very harsh time (think, book of Judges:confused:) and I am glad I was not living in it. New Testament seems to have chilled out a bit. I could go through all the typical answers that people give for this but actually, I do not know.
     
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    I dont know if He really changed. There are passages in the NT where sinners are prophecied to recieve harsh treatment. Even Jesus became angry at people.

    I guess id rather be killed by Moses like in the OT, than burn in fire eternally like in the NT.
     
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    b.finton In the Unity of Faith

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    The NT provides corrective lenses. Not everybody needed them. Some, it didn't help.

    b.
     
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    Town Heretic Temporarily out of order

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    Nothing. When Jesus said, "I and the Father are one," he understood the history on hand among the Jewish people. Though to be fair, the OT God is a bit more three-dimensional than a supreme being with anger management issues...ultimately, the distinction between how we see God is a distinction between the unfulfilled law and the fulfilled law, or, between God in justice and God in mercy. The cross changes the way we see and relate to God. But Christ spoke of hell and judgment too. Nothing that happened in the momentary lives of those peoples moving about in the OT was harder or harsher than justice without mercy. The cross is an intersection between the demands of justice and the power of love through mercy.

    No, but there's no real disagreement within the three-person God of Christian understanding. And if you pay attention to what happens on the cross, when Christ satisfies the demand of justice for payment, it's as brutal as anything that was ever commanded of those human beings under judgment in the OT.
     
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    what a joke

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  17. George-ananda

    George-ananda Advaita and Spiritualist and Pantheist
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    I think you are just seeing the progressive evolution of man's religious thought and not a changing reality.
     
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    OT God said He regretted drowning everyone. After sending the Messiah, who supposedly fixed everything, God simply switches fire for water to keep His promise not to drown everyone and kills just about everyone AGAIN ... WITHOUT remorse.
     
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    I thought He said He regretted creating man.
     
  20. David1967

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    Fair enough. Its just sad ,as I really like ice cream and hate to see anyone become apostate to the eternally delicious frozen treat.:p So ,,what is this new faith of "Dinsdale Piranha"?
     
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