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Why would somebody willingly become a Satanist?

Viker

Häxan
Satan can be worshipped in a temple but is too humble to have a holiday focused on his birth? The Satanist religion isn’t very well thought out.
Muslims don't celebrate the birth of Muhammad. Buddhists don't celebrate the birth of the Buddha. Why must every religion be most like Christianity in order it be "well thought out"? There's even the Jehovah's Witnesses, they don't celebrate Christmas/birth of Christ either. But they believe in Jesus. Christianity as a whole isn't even "well thought out".
 
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Colt

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Colt

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Birthdays.
Got it thanks, I went and found it:

Birthdays are Highest Holiday for Satanists

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Back in 1969 Anton Lavey wrote The Satanic Bible. On page 96 (in the 1976 version) it mentions birthdays:
THE highest of all holidays in the Satanic religion is the date of one’s own birth. This is in direct contradiction to the holy of holy days of other religions, which deify a particular god who has been created in an anthropomorphic form of their own image, thereby showing that the ego is not really buried.
The Satanist feels: “Why not really be honest and if you are going to create a god in your image, why not create that god as yourself.” Every man is a god if he chooses to recognize himself as one. So, the Satanist celebrates his own birthday as the most important holiday of the year. After all, aren’t you happier about the fact that you were born than you are about the birth of someone you have never even met? Or for that matter, aside from religious holidays, why pay higher tribute to the birthday of a president or to a date in history than we do to the day we were brought into this greatest of all worlds?
Despite the fact that some of us may not have been wanted, or at least were not particularly planned, we’re glad, even if no one else is, that we’re here! You should give yourself a pat on the back, buy yourself whatever you want, treat yourself like the king (or god) that you are, and generally celebrate your birthday with as much pomp and ceremony as possible.
After one’s own birthday, the two major Satanic holidays are Walpurgisnacht and Halloween (or All Hallows’ Eve). (Lavey A, Gilmore P. The Satanic Bible. Avon, September 1, 1976, p. 96–note it is on page 53 of an online version I found also).
It is interesting that birthdays are considered the most important holiday to these Satan worshipers (the founding of their “church”, called Walpurgisnacht, and Halloween are the other ones of importance to them).
The Bible never encourages the celebration of birthdays. Instead, it tends to speak in a negative manner concerning them (cf. Matthew 14:6-11; Jeremiah 20:14-18).
Of course, early Christians did not celebrate birthdays nor did the early Jews. Nor have real Christians ever celebrated Halloween.
No early religious/church writing from the second century that I have seen (and I have read most that are available) seems to endorse (or even suggest) the celebration of birthdays by any who professed Christ.
Although he was not part of the Church of God, the writings of the early third century Catholic theologian Origen of Alexandria show that, even that late, Orthodox Catholics were against the celebration of birthdays. The Catholic Encyclopedia states:
Origen, glancing perhaps at the discreditable imperial Natalitia, asserts (in Lev. Hom. viii in Migne, P.G., XII, 495) that in the Scriptures sinners alone, not saints, celebrate their birthday (Martindale C. Christmas, 1908).
Here is some of what Origen wrote:
…of all the holy people in the Scriptures, no one is recorded to have kept a feast or held a great banquet on his birthday. It is only sinners (like Pharaoh and Herod) who make great rejoicings over the day on which they were born into this world below (Origen, in Levit., Hom. VIII, in Migne P.G., XII, 495) (Thurston H. Natal Day. Transcribed by Thomas M. Barrett. Dedicated to Margaret Johanna Albertina Behling Barrett. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume X. Copyright © 1911 by Robert Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by K. Knight. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1911. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York).
The writings of the late third century Catholic theologian Arnobius show that, even that late, Catholics objected to the celebration of birthdays as he wrote:
…you worship with couches, altars, temples, and other service, and by celebrating their games and birthdays, those whom it was fitting that you should assail with keenest hatred. (Arnobius. Against the Heathen (Book I), Chapter 64. Excerpted from Ante-Nicene Fathers, Volume 6. Edited by Alexander Roberts & James Donaldson. American Edition, 1886. Online Edition Copyright © 2005 by K. Knight).
Thus birthday celebrations, even of gods and leaders, were condemned as far as the late third century by even Roman Catholic leaders. But like many practices associated with non-biblical “Christianity”, this changed in the fourth century.
Essentially birthdays became celebrated later because of compromises with the pagan cult of Mithraism (see Did Early Christians Celebrate Birthdays?).
And for four decades now, Satanists claim that birthdays are their highest holiday. Do you observe them too?
Some articles of possibly related interest may include:
Did Early Christians Celebrate Birthdays? Did biblical era Jews celebrate birthdays? Who originally celebrated birthdays? When did many that profess Christ begin birthday celebrations?
Is Halloween Holy Time for Christians? This article provides some historical and biblical insight on this question.
Is God Unreasonable? Some have suggested that if God requires Sabbath-keeping He is unreasonable. Is that true?
Is There “An Annual Worship Calendar” In the Bible? This paper provides a biblical and historical critique of several articles, including one by WCG which states that this should be a local decision. What do the Holy Days mean? Also you can click here for the calendar of Holy Days.
The History of Early Christianity Are you aware that what most people believe is not what truly happened to the true Christian church? Do you know where the early church was based? Do you know what were the doctrines of the early church? Is your faith really based upon the truth or compromise?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Satan worshipers
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Yes, keep on with innacurate information affer you've been corrected.
Is your faith really based upon the truth or compromise?
The same can be said of all religions.
And all that other stuff...really? Do Christians celebrate Halloween? As Samhein, the Gaelic holiday, no. Why would they engage in Paganism? Seems to obvious is seems silly point it out, no?
But as the commercialized Halloween, yeah, lots of Christians celebrate.
 

Saint Frankenstein

From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!
Premium Member
The ones modifying it with Jungian influence were themselves freemasons or am I wrong?
No, they wouldn't have been Freemasons. The two are unrelated.
And doesn't it still make use of the four classifications air, earth, fire, and water?
No. The suits are Cups, Wands, Swords and Pentacles in a typical Tarot deck.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
:facepalm:
Yes, keep on with innacurate information affer you've been corrected.

The same can be said of all religions.
And all that other stuff...really? Do Christians celebrate Halloween? As Samhein, the Gaelic holiday, no. Why would they engage in Paganism? Seems to obvious is seems silly point it out, no?
But as the commercialized Halloween, yeah, lots of Christians celebrate.
It seems that Satanist are just secularists who made a religion out of materialism.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
It seems that Satanist are just secularists who made a religion out of materialism.
There are some theistic Satanists as well. I've never met any in real life, and even in RF they are outnumbered, but they are there.
And what do mean by materialist? As in things pertaining to the physical/material Cosmos, or the materialist consumer culture?
 

Kfox

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Human pride obstructs intelligence. Mankind was gifted the capacity for intelligence from their creator.
But with no challenges in life, he had nothing to use his intelligence on. After the fall, mankind had challenges in life making his intelligence useful for him.
 

Ebionite

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But with no challenges in life, he had nothing to use his intelligence on. After the fall, mankind had challenges in life making his intelligence useful for him.
The challenge was and is to comprehend the nature of existence. "the creatures ran and returned"
 

Link

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Premium Member
From the university library on scholarly sources. But I don’t have time as of now.
 

Little Dragon

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Satan tempted Jesus to eat rocks. That is what a 3-year old tries to do to their parents. Like what kind of mindset do Satanists have? I just don't see it.
Why do Satanists believe that Satan is better in their view to God?
Why do many, but not all, Satanists get absurd amounts of tattoos and piercings? Is it just a style choice or a meaning behind it?
From the limited interactions with Satanists I've had, they have this attitude where they believe it is okay to hurt others because they were hurt by someone else. How do they justify that and where does this attitude come from?
I've never met a satanist as far as I know (in 'real life'), rather, no one has ever self identified as a satanist to me. Yet.
I understand that there are two fundamentally different brands of Satanism. Theistic and non theistic. Beyond that, I know not much else.
I don't think however rational people would say it's ok to simply hurt others. I think what they probably mean is that it's fine or acceptable to retaliate against someone whom has hurt you, either physically or otherwise. Whether you agree or not is a moral or ethical question, however the rationality is clear. The reasoning is logical and understandable. In many circumstances, it may be necessary to harm those that are attempting to harm you or someone else.
As for piercings and tattoos, they're ostensibly just acts of artistic self expression, that humans of various cultures have been carrying out for many thousands of years.
 

Colt

Well-Known Member
Satan tempted Jesus to eat rocks. That is what a 3-year old tries to do to their parents. Like what kind of mindset do Satanists have? I just don't see it.
Why do Satanists believe that Satan is better in their view to God?
Why do many, but not all, Satanists get absurd amounts of tattoos and piercings? Is it just a style choice or a meaning behind it?
From the limited interactions with Satanists I've had, they have this attitude where they believe it is okay to hurt others because they were hurt by someone else. How do they justify that and where does this attitude come from?
Tatas only seem to be appealing to other people with tats! From a short distance they all look the same, as if they've been rolling around under a car working on a transition or something! I have a buddy who's been married 3 times, each time he got a tat for the newest practice wife which led to the need to redesign new tats over the old tats! So, wife number three has to look at all the tats of the previous "this is the one" marks! Fortunatly being #5 for her and #3 for him, they do seem to have found their soulmates!
 
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Link

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Premium Member
No. The suits are Cups, Wands, Swords and Pentacles in a typical Tarot deck.

Tarot was introduced to get influences from unseen/guidance from spirits/Angels/Djinn/gods. But in a way there has been a form of this in every culture. Even Muslims do it today with istekhera.

The Quran talks about divination with arrows of the people of that time.

The interpretation may or may not be linked to astrology and the four types (air, water, fire, earth) and twelve astrological signs. However, this a nuance. The main thing is the key of Solomon and other books attributed his power by a ring and calling upon both Angels and Demons and making use of all of them.

Similar calling upon spirits or imbuing the cards with magic, often takes rituals. Whether people do those rituals or not, is their choice.

But from my research the main thing is freemasons believe in unseen guidance from spirits beyond. They introduced this as an easy way for society to get that.

Freemasons are not the only ones who believe that. So you are right it's not necessarily tied to them, but they had a heavy influence on making it popular.
 
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