That's a good expansion on the axiom.
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Why the Theory of Evolution is True. Part 1: What is Science?
That's a good expansion on the axiom.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Of course, I could not know the answer to that.
We admins are conscious? If that's anything like 'alert', I can lay that rumor to rest right here and now!
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
I am not asking if it existed "for you" before your birth.
I am asking if it existed at all before your birth
Heyo
Veteran Member
The universe being "orderly" is the assumption that the laws of nature are the same for any time and any location. Many religions rest on a temporary suspension of laws of nature, a.k.a. "magic" or "miracles".
When things can change without (explainable, scientific) reason we call that "chaotic".
That results from 1. Science deals only with the natural world.
Are you even aware of what the blues do when the reds aren't around?! Harel can tell you!
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Irrelevant. The assertion is that the universe exists independent of mind. Unless one is tweaking the assertion to mean only some minds (eg mine) then the assertion fails, imo.
Heyo
Veteran Member
I guess you were unclear in your question.
And you asked:
I thought the "that" in your question referred to Sunstone explaining what I meant. By responding I made it known that he was correct.
If your "that" didn't refer to him knowing my mind, you might want to clear that up - but you also might want to look up the definition of "axiom" before you embarrass yourself.
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
Such as the composition of my sock drawer.
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
What is the difference between one mind and multipe minds?
Unless you are claiming that all minds are sharing the same illusion and calling said shared illusion reality, then what is this difference you are holding onto?
@Sunstone hint: it's a lot of underhanded misuse of mod privileges. In short, devilry...
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
I wasn't making a reference to another poster.
Yep, axiom...
Definition of AXIOM
... something requiring mind to hold as true.
@Sunstone Psshhh Harel's just jealous he's not a mod......
Secret Chief
nirvana is samsara
I consider that distinction irrelevant to the assertion made above. You either remove "our minds" to make it "some minds" (which I realise is preposterous) or else the claim fails.
No I wasn't. Not even "getting" to that stage. All I am saying is that axioms require the human mind to hold them.
I am sometimes, until I remember that I wouldn't be able to put the really annoying people on ignore...also, I need to maintain my good-guy profile and not do underhanded forumy things.@Sunstone Psshhh Harel's just jealous he's not a mod......
McBell
Resident Sourpuss
Soin a nutshell, you ask for something to be shown true, then refuse to even listen to it?
A Vestigial Mote
Well-Known Member
A human mind, specifically, do you think? Just figured I'd put on display that any of us can play at this game.
Life outside RF? That's a vicious rumor someone started years ago in a shameless effort to lure attractive youth off RF and into the big cities where they might fall victim to being seduced by dirty old men. I know because I was the one who started the rumor.
How on earth is that a relevant question to ask about an axiom?
DON'T FALL FOR IT @Harel13! You're kinda safe with me!