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Featured Why the NT is Historically and Theologically not acceptable for Torath Mosheh Jews

Discussion in 'Scriptural Debates' started by Ehav4Ever, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. rosends

    rosends Well-Known Member

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    No it doesn't.
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    God is love but He is also just. He reached out to us in His love because He didn't want us to have to make the payment for our sins. Jesus and the Infinite

     
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    That's gibberish and the parts that approach making sense are wrong.
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    God came down to save us and to teach us how to live. He reached out to us in His love by taking our place on the cross. It doesn't matter how good we think we are, we can't be good enough to earn heaven. When you do something wrong with the law, there are consequences. No matter how hard we try, we are still going to sin. We can't be perfect. None of us are perfect. At our best we are sinners.
     
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    That's wrong. He didn't.
    We can.
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    Numbers 31:9 is consistent with the Messiah being God incarnate. Jewish People Do Not Believe That God Could Become a Man | Chosen People Ministries

    To understand the scriptures properly you have to understand the context. When I read the Bible over and over again I notice things that I didn't notice before. 2 Peter 1:20. Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
     
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    2 Peter 1:10 says Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. Is Private Interpretation Possible?

     
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    If a person could be good enough to make it to heaven on their own merit, why did God the Father, the creator of all there is on heaven and on earth, permit his own innocent son Jesus to be falsely accused, shamefully and painfully mistreated, and nailed to a Roman cross to die? He suffered and died because death and eternal separation from him, is the consequences for sin.
     
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    Do you know how many martyrs there are in different religions? Do you know how many martyrs there are in Judaism alone, one of the most persecuted religions of the last 2000 years? Do you know that martyrism in Judaism existed long before Jesus? Of course Peter and Paul had some notion of dying for a cause they believed in, and certainly one that would offer up a big reward post-death. This proves nothing.
    True. It's not fun listening to claims that the Torah is false.
     
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    He didn't.
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    I imagine teaching high schoolers makes one either crazy or amazingly calm and patient. I’m glad in your case, and for our benefit, it is the latter.
     
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    I would suggest that it is difficult to tell the difference.
     
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    The Scriptures write in Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God. Romans 3:10-12 writes There is none righteous, no, not one. The Old Testament mentions eternal separation from God. The Second Death

     
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    Who cares abou Romans?
    No it doesn't
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    The Bible is the only book that talks about God's love for us and our sinful nature. Christianity is the only belief system that shows how much God loves His creation. God died for every single person to pay the price for their sin. Hell Inside The Earth - by David J. Stewart

     
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    Following Jesus is not convenient. It involves being humble. Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me. Matthew 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.

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    Jesus said in Matthew 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.
     
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    It most certainly is convenient when you're too poor to pay the guard at the entrance of the study hall or too unlearned to actually understand anything, but still want some spirituality in your life.
     
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    Study halls mention Buddhism and Hinduism too. What does Christianity have to do with study halls?
     
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