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Why The Bible God has human qualities?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by ProfLogic, May 23, 2006.

  1. ProfLogic

    ProfLogic Well-Known Member

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    Here are things that shows that the bible god shows human qualities:

    Exodus 34:1 Yahweh said to Moses, "Chisel two stone tablets like the first: and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.

    This sounds like a father after breaking something that belonged to him. Why don't he do it himself, just like a human parent. After all the story says Moses broke it because his people was adoring another god, in return this god said create 2 stone tablets like from before.


    He made mistakes
    The Ten Commandments:

    Honor your father and mother: Well in todays society that now we are seeing more parental abuse, how can you honor your abusers.

    Thou shall not kill.

    He failed to add unless it is for me.... If you look at the history of the so-called chosen people, its full of murder, genocide, suicide, and destruction. what a waste of human lives.

    The tree of knowledge, god is selfish which was also evident in the commandment thous shall not adore any other gods. Even though men adored other gods, why don't god fight it himself. Eternal salvation sounds like a man's invention so that any follower can be easily manipulated to do its will.

    Noah's ark, he started over, killed almost everything that was land bound. I am pretty sure there are other creatures that loves the water.

    The usage of free willwhen there are things not going god's side was a perfect strategy since humans can not read other people's minds.

    Selecting a chosen people, now that makes everyone special. Same as what hitler had done to unite Germany. He found one thing that the germans hate and united his country for a chaotic and murderous cost. That's hitler I was refering to, or wait didn't Moses, David, Solomon, Saul, killed to united their people.

    Sent jesus to die for humanities sin, why not himself. Even his son doubted him. Trinity sounds like multiple personality.

    There's more but let me see if others feel the same way. Feel free to comment positively or negatively since this is a debate forum.
     
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  2. Aqualung

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    Gee, maybe because he was once human?

    "Blasphemy!! Burn this non-Christian at the stake!!"
     
  3. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Because applying anthropomorphic qualities to God was the best way ancient humans could understand and express God.
     
  4. Raguel

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    Are you referring to Jesus, or suggesting that God himself was human before?
     
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    Isn't ascribing jealousy and anger to deity, as is done in the OT, ascribing human traits to It?
     
  6. angellous_evangellous

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    And modern I am sure.
     
  7. ProfLogic

    ProfLogic Well-Known Member

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    I was refering to the OT god. Jesus was human according to the bible. Its evident because he showed anger, exhaustion pain and he wept.
     
  8. Aqualung

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    Don't dogs show those qualities? Don't monkeys? What if god wasn't a human. What if he was a dog?
     
  9. ProfLogic

    ProfLogic Well-Known Member

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    Why do people keep saying the writings are god inspired? You might have the answer.
     
  10. Bishka

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    So why can't God show emotions? Is it beyond God to show emotions? Must be, darn it, I think I'm burning at the stake with Aqualung.
     
  11. ProfLogic

    ProfLogic Well-Known Member

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    Yes in my opinion. Are there other religions' scripture showed possible human qualities?
     
  12. Aqualung

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    Well, if you say yes, then God is not showing human qualities. He is showing qualities which you have defined as human, but which really aren't.
     
  13. ProfLogic

    ProfLogic Well-Known Member

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    Why adore something that is like humans and rely on a promise of eternal salvation?
     
  14. Bishka

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    The LDS believe that God has emotion, what's so bad about that?
     
  15. angellous_evangellous

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    Because by faith we can participate in the myth of God. It's proven to be an especially powerful force in human history. You can take it or leave it, but the power of hope is undeniable.

    An excellent movie that accurately IMHO demonstrates the power of two faiths is To End All Wars. It is the story of an American Christian POW in WWII and his Buddhist captor.
     
  16. angellous_evangellous

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    I can't think of one that doesn't. Perhaps there are some religions that talk of God in completely transendental language, but I can't think of a religion that expresses God in terms that have no contact with an anthropomorphic metaphor.
     
  17. Mykola

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    The header question is not correct.

    Properly rephrased it would be "Why do we humans have the qualities of the God of the Bible?", the answer being "Because He has created us in His own image".

    But I'd like to comment on your post anyway... Just to try to make some points more clear.

    I see here God showing passionate love towards Moses and all the people.

    You know, the very probable reason is that He actually is Father.

    Perhaps it is just because He is not human parent.
    What amazes you more - His being like human or His not being? :)


    Very sweeping assertion of you! Can I comment on your arguments? (Hope these below are arguments...)

    Yes. Your part is to honor your parents and to love your enemies. Your parents can hate you and your enemies can threat you, but your part is to honor, love and bless.

    No, He didn't.
    Study, please the meaning of the verb "to kill" and its parallel in Hebrew, then "to murder" and its parallel in Hebrew. By the end of this study you will already have a general idea of the difference between "shedding innocent blood" and "killing in the name (BY AUTHORITY) of God". Hopefully, that would be enough for you not to make such assertions in the future.

    Please take a look at some cases you mentioned so generally, and try to see God's attitude to murder.
    Any time you see any action in the Bible, stop and try to see what's God's attitude towards this action. Does He approves of or repulses etc.

    Selfish God? Can I suggest you being a bit more thankful to you Creator?

    You obviously miss a very significant point --
    There are no other gods. Whole thing (worshiping them) is pointless.

    What do you mean?
    Do you ask why God doesn't fight the gods? - Because there aren't any, and He is not a lunatic to fight what does not exist.
    Do you ask why God doesn't fight the idolatry? - He does fight!

    Any arguments to support that?
    Being groundless, this assertion does not have any weight at all.

    Yes, there are creatures that love the water, so what? What does it prove?
    What was intent of the Flood? Study to answer this, and you'll see my point.

    Can you please set out your thoughts more coherently?
    I cannot comprehense your point in this.

    Come on, have you ever read the Bible? Where did you get those strange ideas at all?
    It starts to dawn at me that you are greatly misinformed to do such odd assertions.

    Not the same at all. No similarity.

    Generalization is not very good way to seek the truth.
    Try to go to the details, and you'll see that you're totally mistaken (misinformed, underinformed).

    Jesus is God, what's more do you want? :)

    But, strangely enough, I can clearly answer your obscure question: Jesus had come in shrouded majesty and glory, and if God came in His full Glory, people would die because of their sins - almost no one would stand the Shining of His Glory.

    No, He didn't, not in the Bible at least.

    So what? :)

    There's more of what?
    Others who? Likewise misinformed people?
    Do you want to support your ideas by counting noses?

    You've said that, I've done so - don't be insulted, please :)
     
  18. Jayhawker Soule

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    ... according to one of the very human authors/redactors of Genesis. That you invest this projection with the quality of revelatory truth is insufficient warrant to "properly rephrase" anything.
     
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  19. Mykola

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    Well, okay.
    If not rephrased, the answer would be the same :)

    Actually, the question is "why God and we humans or we humans and God share some qualities".

    But, still, there's more comprehensible wording and less comprehensible wording. I prefer the former. Then, regardless of anything, my variant of question is closer to a meaningful and comprehensible answers, based on the Bible.
     
  20. ΩRôghênΩ

    ΩRôghênΩ Disciple of Light

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