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Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Earthling, Jun 11, 2018.

  1. Earthling

    Earthling David Henson

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    Bible skeptics often ask believers why read the Bible, why not read the other religious texts? It's a valid question. We should read as many other sacred texts as we can, I myself have read many, even published them on various websites over the years. But why is the Bible important? For a variety of reasons. I have talked to several serious students of history who were atheists and very knowledgeable on the Bible due to it's historical value. Though they don't believe in the supernatural aspect of it they respect tremendously it's historical significance. Secular histories, after all, not only can't compare to the Bible due to sheer volume of manuscripts available in comparison to secular histories, but also the Bible writers were much more honest and straight forward about their shortcomings and failures.

    The unique thing about the Bible is that it also gives us some insight on what was going on before the Earth itself was created. For example, it says that the creator existed before time, and that the very first act of creation was the son of Jehovah God, the creator. Since he was the first created being and the only part of creation which was exclusively created by Jehovah he is called the first born only begotten son. His name was Michael. Everything thereafter was created by Jehovah through Michael as master worker. First the heavens, then the myriads of spirit creatures, then the earth and it's inhabitants, concluding with mankind.

    What a remarkable work the Bible is!
     
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  2. Nowhere Man

    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    You do realize the Bible doesn't corner the market in respect to ancient writings.

    There's nothing special or different historically compared to others that makes it stand out any more or less significantly.
     
  3. Rival

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    It doesn't say this.
     
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  4. Shushersbedamned

    Shushersbedamned Well-Known Member

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    The bible is poetic.
     
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    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    Read it again. You’re making claims that the Genesis account never makes. And your theology is askew. The Son was not created; he is eternally begotten.
     
  6. Audie

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    I think the bible was worth reading, for all that I
    would say it is the most overstudied piece of writing
    ever!

    As a semi-historical novel / collected folk tales
    and folk wisdom of a people, for its poetry
    and imagery, its pretty good.

    A lot of it is as dull as ditch water.

    Where people go wrong with it is taking it
    and themselves too seriously.

    Lots of people on this forum think they are
    gifted (of) god, with the infallible power
    of right readin'. THEY know the true meaning
    of chapter and verse; other readings are wrong.

    And of course announce wit h full confidence
    their "facts not in evidence" that the bible
    is "true" and that the 'god" in it really esists
    and did all those things.

    How do they know? "Faith"!

    I'd say that those of us who read it for what it
    is have a far better and more nuanced appreciation
    for it than those who think all the magic realism
    is,you know, real.
     
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  7. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

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    Maybe a reason to study it would be to find out what it really does say?
     
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  8. Subduction Zone

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    A proper study of the Bible quite often leads to atheism. Or else strong cognitive dissonance. The problem for believers is that cog diss is obvious to those that did not "drink the Kool-Aid".
     
  9. Rival

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    I've read it cover to cover and I know it does not say this! :D
     
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  10. Unveiled Artist

    Unveiled Artist Love is patient. Love is kind.

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    Reading the bible helps one know their own faith. The Dharma has better insight and wisdom than bible. The Dharma is very extensive. Over thousand "scripture" addressing everything and challenge every man has. There are a lot of analogies and they addresses solutional words for laymen, monks, and scholars in between. It talks about how to practice, why, motivation, and present, at the moment, living with success today not when we die. The Dharma teaches us how to live to die and explains the nature of our final death. The Dharma teaches us how to improve our spirituality by what we do not what we believe. It doesnt expect us to study. It expects us to practice. It teaches us how to die.

    Not based on faith but based in action; what we can evaluate and experience now. The bible doesnt teach that.

    But its good to study sacred scriptures nonetheless.
     
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  11. Audie

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    I will take your word for that.

    It is kind of amusing in a not terribly funny sort of way
    thatour hero who says he does not do blind faitn
    makes it so plain that its exactly what he does.

    He says others should read and learn the bible, but,
    then claims it says things it does not.


    We recommend he return to quiet study and c
    contemplation, this public display is undignified.
     
  12. Earthling

    Earthling David Henson

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    I disagree. The OP has already established that and t his thread will continue to do so.
     
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    Earthling David Henson

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    "The OP has already established that" :D
     
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  15. Rival

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    I'm not a Christian and the Christian texts make up no part of my Bible.
     
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    Earthling David Henson

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    Eternally begotten? What in the world is that supposed to mean?

    Revelation 3:14 / Proverbs 8:22-31
     
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    To provisionally eschew atheism while deeply appreciating the Tanakh is not at all the same as to "believe in" the Bible.
     
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    Seriously? :D
     
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    There is value in the Bible, my problem is with literalists more than anything else.
     
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  20. Audie

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    Like those literalists who think that there really is a god?
     
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