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Why Shouldn't Feminism Exist?

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
I think I've skimmed all 5 pages of the thread already. Phew! I saw the OP's Equity/equality/liberation. I've been with the OP on the topic before. I'm not here to bash Feminism.

I think Feminism has slippage toward Communism. Let me tell you about that. Of course the Gentleman Woodrow Wilson responded to popular support about suffrage, women votes to choose government. Women continued to have jobs and better jobs. For our entire lives we are talking about Communism slippage with 51% and over majority women workforce. Let me tell you about that.

Capitalism defined:an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Economy defined (personal memory): any allocation of a limited resource, whether it be upon need, or production

The countries we are modelling this generation are communist China's frontline women and no breaks for women's healthcare, and undoing the progress of the Woodrow Wilson's administration for why he was elected, and the big industry bossman that could lock cents an hour foreign workers to burn to death in their factories, the triangle shirtwaist factory fire.

We learn that GDP Per Capita is mostly, Mostly an inaccurate measure in concern with homemade services and nonmonetary services, so we are developing a Communist/Capitalism, modeling China. China has no home values either, where the perhaps superior product of a woman is measured in higher quantity, and quality, in some measure like GDP. We used to be able to assign in Efficiency, and Capitalist efficiency, is truly in an economic model for Gains, since the time of Woodrow Wilson, and that spark of Life Woodrow Wilson put it, snuffed out, the life that is so great, by an industry crushing men, women and children under it, and a government that turns their back to it.
 

crossfire

LHP Mercuræn Feminist Heretic ☿
Premium Member
I don't disagree with the concept of nomos, but I do disagree with the "feminist" idea of "The Patriarchy".
Well, the feminists call the cultural nomos "The Patriarchy." (Just try substituting "the nomos" for "The Patriarchy" if you wish to understand what is going on with feminism and the nomos.)
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
No, violence against anyone is a law enforcement and personal defense issue.

Men and women are equal under the law. Good job feminists. Your job is done.

That is naive tripping through the daisies view of equality under the law. No, the reality despite laws is that violence against women is not the same as violence against men.
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Hooray, Prestor John, because Jesus' ministry is remarkable for talking to women. People I suppose don't think of it today. I can't find a single instance that Mohammad wishes to talk to a woman. "You have rights over your women, they have rights over you", said some strange post now. Buddha isn't there to talk to women. Confucius, Abraham, Moses isn't there to talk to women.

Jesus sought out the woman at the well. Jesus tore down the Synagogue's gender aisle, metaphorically, over history. The Temple's inner male sanctum and the female outterwall. Jesus remarked as higher above all the donaters at the temple, the widow with the two pennies. Jesus stayed the hand of the stoning of the accused adulterer. Jesus was seen with prostitutes and sinners, and no companion asked him a question, because this was a doctor. A doctor for the sick.
In Luke 10:38-42 Jesus is literally ministering over sisters and their housework, I knew I'd find it again, remarkable. How's that for the lofty patriarchy you're pretending to make?
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
How about you read the rest of the post you quoted from?

I mentioned some things.

It was literally the very next sentence.
Energy independence is attributable to industry, not government (especially not this government). Low unemployment is complemented by the highest number of poor people in the country's history, mass homelessness, and the vanishing of the middle class. The other "accomplishments" are not (not accomplishments).
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
I believe that men know how to be men better than women know how to be men. They live in this body. I also believe that women know how to be women, better that men know how to be women. Each sex should set the rules of optimization for their own sex. This is why older cultures segregate into male and female roles. Each sex was in control of their own sexual peers. This the natural common sense way.

Problems appear when each sex tries to manipulate the other sex to become something that is not natural to that sex. Rather the manipulation is something that is designed for the ego of the sex who does the manipulating.

The t=young male might want a woman to become over sexed, like young males are. This is not natural for women, even though many will accommodate. Many woman may require her mate accommodate her with white lies, to make her feel better about herself. This is not natural to the male and can also lead to problems. There is a tradeoff called romance.

Male and Female brains are wired differently and are thereby designed to be complementary. As a team, this wiring and the differences allows the team to become more than the sum of its parts. But when men and women attempt to make the other different from their natural wiring, the result is not a solid team, that can run on all cylinders.

It is not coincidence that the amount of divorce has rising since feminism appeared on the scene. Feminist have helped women learn to be more like natural women, but they also tried to sabotage the natural male. The result are teams who no longer mesh in a natural way and therefore do not create that extra something.

Men are visual animals, while female are more verbal. The bible way of the husband leading the wife is due to this difference. Visual evidence is harder to exploit than is verbal evidence. In other words, it is easier to lie with words, that it is to lie with visible evidence. I can tell you that ehe moon is made of cheese easier, than show you a photograph of moon cheese that looks authentic.

The visual evidence, by being easier to verify, is why the husband leads the wife. Fake news is all about too much talking. If they had to only present visual evidence, fake news would not work as easily. Fake news makes women more vulnerable. It also impact left wing mean who have been told to think as a woman with words before visual evidence.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I'm seeing many claims of "we don't need feminism anymore," without any reasons given.

I'd like to hear the reasons for this statement.

I'm listening. :)

I think feminism was necessary during the women’s suffrage movement when women developed minority rights. However I tend to think conceptually it has transformed into something where pseudo-intellectuals try to define their own personal feminism which is not all inclusive. Like the Andrea Dworkins of the world who felt pornography was rape, whereas other women felt porn was revolutionary and freedom.

In other words, there are too many women defining feminism to suit their own individual battles. I think in order for us to achieve the goal of complete egalitarianism we need moderate movements that can be all inclusive.
 
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oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
I'm seeing many claims of "we don't need feminism anymore," without any reasons given.

I'd like to hear the reasons for this statement.

I'm listening. :)

The claims are reasonable ........... in many Western countries.
Reasons:-
Most Western countries have legislation to protect victimised or oppressed people, and we should all be supporting such egalitarian legislation.
People who only focus upon one rather than all people are just showing what careless or ignorant bigots they are.

Some of the people needing protection, support and equality include :-
Race
Skin Colour
Gender
Sexual Orientation
Religion and/or Creed
Disability (any)
Age
Marital Status
Nationality
............ and no doubt there are others.

And so women are included within modern protective legislation in all ways ........ why exclude all those others who need protections as well?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
People who only focus upon one rather than all people are just showing what careless or ignorant bigots they are.
To focus upon one doesn't mean excluding concern for the others.
We all cannot focus upon everything available, so we limit it to
what interests us most. Where feminists (some) fail....
- Myopia.
- Blaming others instead of accepting responsibility.
- Loss of empathy.
- Seeking rights greater than others.
- Demonizing others.
- Wallowing in victimhood.
- Loopy claims.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
I think I've skimmed all 5 pages of the thread already. Phew! I saw the OP's Equity/equality/liberation. I've been with the OP on the topic before. I'm not here to bash Feminism.

I think Feminism has slippage toward Communism
. Let me tell you about that. Of course the Gentleman Woodrow Wilson responded to popular support about suffrage, women votes to choose government. Women continued to have jobs and better jobs. For our entire lives we are talking about Communism slippage with 51% and over majority women workforce. Let me tell you about that.

Capitalism defined:an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Economy defined (personal memory): any allocation of a limited resource, whether it be upon need, or production

The countries we are modelling this generation are communist China's frontline women and no breaks for women's healthcare, and undoing the progress of the Woodrow Wilson's administration for why he was elected, and the big industry bossman that could lock cents an hour foreign workers to burn to death in their factories, the triangle shirtwaist factory fire.

We learn that GDP Per Capita is mostly, Mostly an inaccurate measure in concern with homemade services and nonmonetary services, so we are developing a Communist/Capitalism, modeling China. China has no home values either, where the perhaps superior product of a woman is measured in higher quantity, and quality, in some measure like GDP. We used to be able to assign in Efficiency, and Capitalist efficiency, is truly in an economic model for Gains, since the time of Woodrow Wilson, and that spark of Life Woodrow Wilson put it, snuffed out, the life that is so great, by an industry crushing men, women and children under it, and a government that turns their back to it.

An educated looking post is more convincing

Sentence fragments and random capitalizing
of nouns do nothing for your presentation.

Of course, the line about feminism and communism
pretty much killed it anyway.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
The claims are reasonable ........... in many Western countries.
Reasons:-
Most Western countries have legislation to protect victimised or oppressed people, and we should all be supporting such egalitarian legislation.
People who only focus upon one rather than all people are just showing what careless or ignorant bigots they are.

Some of the people needing protection, support and equality include :-
Race
Skin Colour
Gender
Sexual Orientation
Religion and/or Creed
Disability (any)
Age
Marital Status
Nationality
............ and no doubt there are others.

And so women are included within modern protective legislation in all ways ........ why exclude all those others who need protections as well?

Is there anyone other than a few old blighters
who does not deserve protection, support and equality?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
. Fake news makes women more vulnerable. It also impact left wing mean who have been told to think as a woman with words before visual evidence.

An awful lot of preamble there bud. Why
not just shout it out right at the first, that women
are stupid?
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
To focus upon one doesn't mean excluding concern for the others.
We all cannot focus upon everything available, so we limit it to
what interests us most. Where feminists (some) fail....
- Myopia.
- Blaming others instead of accepting responsibility.
- Loss of empathy.
- Seeking rights greater than others.
- Demonizing others.
- Wallowing in victimhood.
- Loopy claims.
I will respond to whatever is left of your bloody and ripped remains later on.
Heh heh!
:p
 

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
An educated looking post is more convincing

Sentence fragments and random capitalizing
of nouns do nothing for your presentation.

Of course, the line about feminism and communism
pretty much killed it anyway.
Oh ya? Random capitalization?! Where?! Sorry you didn't have time for an amazingly detailed look at American feminism and origins. The talking head feminists today are inseparable from Communists! Step 1, ask that woman if she's a communist. Step 2, ask if her socialism/pinko whatever is separable from her feminism. Oops, they're all communists. US Feminism's top TV push today is women in the army and the frontlines like I said. An "accomplishment of Soviet Communists since the 1940's siege of Leningrad.
Well? Whats your other objectives, by the way? And I said your over-saturation in the workforce? Could you imagine the Wilson's wife and daughters getting a "job" instead of piano lessons? Singing our new "Star Spangled Banner". Somehow, the greatest change in countries happens over the assaulted conservative candidate, thus, the hilarious results of pretend pro-war, pro-suffrage, pro-liberal, pro-change, woodrow wilson administration, that's hilarious.
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Audie

Veteran Member
Oh ya? Random capitalization?! Where?! Sorry you didn't have time for an amazingly detailed look at American feminism and origins. The talking head feminists today are inseparable from Communists! Step 1, ask that woman if she's a communist. Step 2, ask if her socialism/pinko whatever is separable from her feminism. Oops, they're all communists. US Feminism's top TV push today is women in the army and the frontlines like I said. An "accomplishment of Soviet Communists since the 1940's siege of Leningrad.
Well? Whats your other objectives, by the way? And I said your over-saturation in the workforce? Could you imagine the Wilson's wife and daughters getting a "job" instead of piano lessons? Singing our new "Star Spangled Banner". Somehow, the greatest change in countries happens over the assaulted conservative candidate, thus, the hilarious results of pretend pro-war, pro-suffrage, pro-liberal, pro-change, woodrow wilson administration, that's hilarious.
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Where?
If you go back you will see I put them in
bold font for your viewing convenience..

in your turgid morass I missed this gem, earlier-

China has no home values either,

And I foolishly thought it was your English usage
that made your post look foolish! My bad.
 
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