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Discussion in 'Evolution Vs. Creationism' started by questfortruth, Jun 15, 2021.

  1. ecco

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    That's your belief. Others believe(d) differently
    Jupiter, the King of Gods
    As king of the gods, Zeus is the most powerful among the Olympians
    Mahadeva, the great God
    Shango is considered to be one of the most powerful rulers that Yorubaland has ever produced.
    Baiame was the creator god

    I could go on and on.
     
  2. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    The first humans emerged in Africa around two million years ago, long before the modern humans known as Homo sapiens appeared on the same continent
    How Did Humans Evolve?
     
  3. URAVIP2ME

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    Yes, to man's thinking the breaking man's laws is a 'crime', and to God breaking His laws is a 'sin'.
    Often they go hand in hand because, unless damaged, people come equipped with an in-born conscience.
    So, what was around before the 14 billion years ______________
    The BIG Bang is often what science thinks the Universe had a start, who started the start_______
    I find at Psalms 104:30 that God sent forth his powerful spirit to create the visible material realm of existence.
    In other words, God supplied the abundantly needed dynamic energy to create the Universe - Isaiah 40:26 B.
     
  4. blü 2

    blü 2 Well-Known Member
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    The important thing, it seems to me, is to keep a clear distinction between what is real and what is purely conceptual or imaginary. The one is not the other.

    But of course that's a matter for you.
     
  5. URAVIP2ME

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    Yes, the most pleasant sound is the sound of your own name as in ' Hallelujah ' (short for 'Praise Jah' (Jehovah) .
    - Psalms 146:1; Psalms 150:6; Revelation 19:1.
    Thus, God's name (as per Tetragrammaton YHWH) is to be hallowed, held as holy, sanctified.
    Jesus said he manifested his God's name and he will declare God's name according to John 17:6; John 17:26.

    As per PHD Doe Lang, to make the sound (Hallelujah) you have to tap your tongue on the alveolar ridge at the top of your mouth.
    This stimulates the thymus gland to produce thymosine and studies show thymosine gives you an instant sense of well being.
     
  6. URAVIP2ME

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    Yes, Mercy on all (Romans 3:9) ( both Jew and non-Jew)
    Mercy shown to all, but all will Not accept God's mercy.
    This is why Matthew 20:28 says that Jesus' ransom covers MANY and does Not say all.
    Since Pentecost (Romans 2:28-29) Not a Jew by fleshly descent. Now a spiritual Israel (Christian congregation)
    Remember: Romans 9:6 because " Not all who descend from Israel are really " Israel " (now spiritual Israel - see 1 Peter 2:9,5)
    'Repent' or 'perish'(be destroyed) - 2 Peter 3:9
     
  7. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    Are you a god? Or god to someone? Maybe yourself? Hey, that's an idea -- maybe you're your own god. Or is it your mother or your father that are gods? After all -- you say they created you, right? Or evolved you, I suppose. You evolved from them. Maybe. Or the law of dynamic energy is your god since "it' created you via your mama and poppa. Anyway, maybe I'll see ya sometime in the future. Bye for now...:)
     
  8. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    OK, well, that's interesting, but Einstein had a theory about bending light and time, didn't he?
     
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    How does that calculate whats between n-universes? Cmon.YT. Light and time is within the universe.
     
  10. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    OK, maybe I misunderstand, but we used to think light (in the universe) was on a straight path. I think. Then we found out different. I was thinking that in the Bible, angels could appear very, very quickly to those on the earth. Yet their home (their abode) is not the Earth. So it seems that light and time as we know it does not make a difference to them as we humans understand light and time distances or paths.
     
  11. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    Also, I was thinking that the Bible says God dwells in unapproachable light which no man can see.
    1 Timothy 6 - he who alone has immortality, who inhabits unapproachable light, whom none of men have seen nor can see; to whom belong honor and might eternal; amen.
     
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    I was responding to the OP yt
     
  13. YoursTrue

    YoursTrue We know gravity by happenstance. (Newton)

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    OK, sorry, but I found the points interesting. :) OK, have a good night.
     
  14. questfortruth

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    I am proud of my God. I reject others.

    Correction: our world is both real and illusory,
    our world is not both real and imaginary.
    The illusion is part of an objective outside world, not the product of the brain.
     
  15. Dan From Smithville

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    For me, this pretty much says it all.
     
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    That's why it's important to be conscious of the difference,
    The illusion is part of carelessness of the brain. And steps can be taken to keep such errors as low as possible.
     
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    You are very much rational, which is not right. The outside world is not rational. The world is semi-rational. And it is not depending on us. We live in a fairytale. Remember: the electron is particle and wave!!!
     
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    “Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, “Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.” And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed— on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.”
    ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭21:9-14‬ ‭ESV‬‬

    Not sure what you’re saying, God isn’t finished with the nation of Israel, the gospel came to the Jew first and then the Gentiles, yes mercy on all, but all will not be believers, some will reject the gospel. As you can see who the Bride of Christ is here in Revelation.
     
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    We use reason to understand and explain what reality is and how it works. Everyone else in the world is part of reality. It's one's self that interacts with them.
    I deny that reality as such is a fairytale. We still have a lot to learn about it, and ourselves, H sap sap, as part of it, but it and we are all real.
    Yes, that's one way of expressing one part of physics, but that doesn't make it unreal, or magical, or fictitious ─ it makes it one way of expressing one part of physics.
     
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    Yes, agree first the gospel came to the Jew (Luke 4:43) and second the Samaritans, and then the Gentile nations.
    At Pentecost God was finished with fleshly national Israel (Matthew 23:38) and the 'Israel of God' (Galatians 6:16) became the Christian congregation. That is why Peter refers to Christians as a spiritual nation - 1 Peter 2:5, 9.
    Since Pentecost the 'Israel of God ' is Jerusalem ' above '- Galatians 4:26.
    Heavenly Jerusalem is way too BIG to fit on Earth as we can read about its SIZE starting at Revelation 21:15-17.
    A city that is a perfect cube (12,000 furlongs or 1,380 miles in perimeter). Surrounded by a wall 144 cubits (or 210 feet high). In other words 14 times as large as modern national Israel, and each city gate was one pearl.- see Rev. 21:18-21.
    This means the city would tower about 350 miles into outer space.
    The ' Bride ' is composed of people like those of Luke 22:28-30; Daniel 7:18; Revelation 20:6; Revelation 2:10.
     
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