Why is There Such a Fascination with Porn?

[Dirty Penguin]

Are you aware what Viagra is used for?

I didn't understand and still don't understand what viagra has to do with anything. I know what viagra is used for. In the case of couples or married couples where the man has a difficult time getting an erection viagra is supposed to help with that. It's original intended prescribed use has nothing to do with the pornography industry. Now a case can be made that the invention of viagra and cialis has made it easy for the porn industry....but again, the creation of viagra had nothing to do with the porn business.

I have no problem with this at all. I however do have a problem with it being forced into people's faces. I am not attempting to shove my opinion down anyones throat or stating it shouldn't be done; I am stating that through media advertisements and such you can not have a day without seeing some "sexually" related criteria even if you are just trying to simply watch the News.

Your confusing the use of sexual imagery with porn and and they're not the same.

What In the H:ignore:L do you think we did; however it was not brought to our knowledge until after the fact. This person knows Children used the same computer put had no regard to who else might use it. Aside from that the computer was not to be accessed for that purpose (this person didn't even ask and attemptrd to hide this not only from us, but from her church as well). Parental controls are in place for my Children's safety, it is just a shame that Trust in a Child in this instance far outweighs Trust in an Adult.

Once again it's about personal responsibility. Whenever a computer is going to be in the home and used by everyone, including kids, parents or other adults should make sure controls are in place. Case in point.....a kid could be doing research on the White House and decides to go to whitehouse(dot)com instead of whitehouse.org but unbeknown to the kid it would have taken them to a porn site (I believe the company closed the site in 2004)......but you see what I'm getting at. Whose fault is it then? It's not always about the kid or some adult going to these sites "intentionally".

want[/i] is quite alright for some. Nature It's self has heard the Call of Evolution, Humans are the Ones who ignore it.

 

[horizon_mj1]

Wouldn't porn help cut down on the population? I don't know if you are a guy or not, but not have a release for a long time can make you go nuts, at least in certain men and I am definitely one of them. If it wasn't for porn I would likely have at least 5 children by now.

I can understand what you are saying; it is especially important for prostrate health for men to have a release, and good for women as well. I see the need for porn as a weakness kind of like going to church; although for two very different reasons of course. Porn IMO is a weakness for those who lack self restraint and control whereas church attendance IMO is a weakness for those who cannot comprehend their own relationship with Divinity and need others to share their views in order to be comfortable with their own concepts. I agree that everyone should have their own choice, but do not agree with anyone who attempts to impose their own personal concepts on others who do not agree. (By the way I am female; check the little symbols for male and female by people's names, that's how you tell).

 

[horizon_mj1]

I didn't understand and still don't understand what viagra has to do with anything. I know what viagra is used for. In the case of couples or married couples where the man has a difficult time getting an erection viagra is supposed to help with that. It's original intended prescribed use has nothing to do with the pornography industry. Now a case can be made that the invention of viagra and cialis has made it easy for the porn industry....but again, the creation of viagra had nothing to do with the porn business.

I never implied that Viagra had anything to do with the porn industry and agree it is useful for those who need it.

Your confusing the use of sexual imagery with porn and and they're not the same.

Your right their not; just like depictions of a cross; one may show Christ still on the cross while others are just a cross; yet both still relevant to the same subject.

Once again it's about personal responsibility. Whenever a computer is going to be in the home and used by everyone, including kids, parents or other adults should make sure controls are in place. Case in point.....a kid could be doing research on the White House and decides to go to whitehouse(dot)com instead of whitehouse.org but unbeknown to the kid it would have taken them to a porn site (I believe the company closed the site in 2004)......but you see what I'm getting at. Whose fault is it then? It's not always about the kid or some adult going to these sites "intentionally".

I totally understand what you are saying, but please hear me out logically. This person who did this lied and claimed to have nothing to do with porn (a supposed devout Jehovah Witness) and used a computer they had full knowledge that children used and dismissed it. You are right I should have considered parental controls before this person even laid their hands on the computer, but my point is they completely dismissed other people who use the computer in which was not theirs as well as portraying themselves to be someone they are not (IMO someone who cannot under any circumstance be trusted, a person like that only thinks of themselves and no one else).

The fact that a pornography site existed that would purposely pose itself as a non-porn site in an attempt to get more viewers sickens me. This reminds me of people trying to shove their concepts down other people's throats which in any circumstance is offensive (unless of course a person is "asking" for it). A somewhat related study has been done relating to people being born with a "moral compass". Do You Have the Moral Compass of a Toddler? | Floating University | Big Think I guess the point I am trying to make is that IMO you should use other people's property in a way you know they would disprove of just out of respect if for no other reason.

 

[Dirty Penguin]

I never implied that Viagra had anything to do with the porn industry and agree it is useful for those who need it.

Then why did you bring it up.....

I totally understand what you are saying, but please hear me out logically. This person who did this lied and claimed to have nothing to do with porn (a supposed devout Jehovah Witness) and used a computer they had full knowledge that children used and dismissed it. You are right I should have considered parental controls before this person even laid their hands on the computer, but my point is they completely dismissed other people who use the computer in which was not theirs as well as portraying themselves to be someone they are not (IMO someone who cannot under any circumstance be trusted, a person like that only thinks of themselves and no one else).

I understand your situation. I have kids as well. They're all grown now but still have a 19 year old here at home. The fact of the matter is you never trust anyone, not even your own kids when it comes to readily accessible pornography such as over the internet. We may want to trust our kids to make the right choices or we may think we can trust our "friends" but the reality is you have to be on the defensive and take these necessary precautions. Even though my 19 year old is here and legally he is an adult, because he is in my house using my internet I have parental controls in place. If he wants to view porn he will have to do that outside my home. That goes for anyone coming in here wanting use my Internet. One of his friends came over with his Mac Book and wanted me to type in my wireless key so he could get online and I said (No). My son was upset but I could care less.

The fact that a pornography site existed that would purposely pose itself as a non-porn site in an attempt to get more viewers sickens me.

You're assuming that was its true intentions. Maybe the porn site showcased all Caucasian males and females.....who knows...who cares.

I guess the point I am trying to make is that IMO you should use other people's property in a way you know they would disprove of just out of respect if for no other reason.

I totally agree.....:yes:

 

[idav]

You are right, but do you honestly think we are in a need of more Humans of Earth right now (after all it is over-population that is in part being detrimental to Ecology). Isn't it about Time to find better things to do with our Time instead of being so Self-indulgent?

If couples stuck to one kid for life the population would begin to go down all over the world as the older baby boomers died out. Fat chance of that happening any time soon, people keep popping out multiple kids no matter what country or economic situation they are in. People like sex and it won't stop but that doesn't mean people have to keep upping the population but these days I think it is two to one births to deaths.

This site gives population realtime and the site predicts that the population will begin decreasing by the end of the 21st century.
World Population Clock

 

[no-body]

Of course the mistake is to think that sexual thoughts come from pornography when it's the other way around pornography comes from sexual thoughts (and yes, i'm paraphrasing bill hicks here)

If I am understanding you correctly to answer you... there is nothing wrong with an adult viewing pornographic material but I don't believe a child should be exposed to true pornographic material. Most of it is created for the fetishes of straight men and has nothing to do with actual sexuality/love making.

A parent has the right to want to fix the best mental state possible for their children and honestly I don't see any legitimate situation where you would have a porno going on in the back round with your kids around it would be bordering on if not abuse. If you mean for educational purposes then there could be films that are tasteful, dry and clinical but I don't think little johnny and susy need to see pornstar X getting a facial by 50 guys.

 

[Koldo]

I see the need for porn as a weakness kind of like going to church; although for two very different reasons of course. Porn IMO is a weakness for those who lack self restraint and control...

Lack self restraint and control on doing what?

 

[shawn001]

People view porn because doing so results in a rush of hormones and dopamine.

In a similar way, watching sport raises hormone levels. Watching your team win produces a substantial rise in testosterone levels.



On the subject of facts - the global population isn't rising because of " our children having sex at much younger ages". It is rising because couples have more than 2.1 children on average. The population has been rising throughout history. It is only developed countries which have recently reduced population growth. Generally speaking, more educated and wealthy populations have reduced population growth.

Most of the population growth in developed countries is actually coming from migrant populations who bring with them from poorer countries their tendency to larger families.

Nevertheless you are right that population pressure is trashing the earth, though to be accurate, it is not so much the population size as the insane levels of overconsumption and irresponsible environmental practices which is the problem there.

Good post.

 

[shawn001]

In psychology courses you are taught about the Id (http://allpsych.com/psychology101/ego.html) which explains how a human (or any animal for that matter) will do what it takes to assure the survival or not only the self, but the entire species as well. Sigmund Freud’s concept was introduced over a century ago, but is still widely accepted today, why? A century is a very long time for psychological concepts to evolve, but this is one of the most prevalent excuses for people to participate in such activities as pornography. Our society complains of our children having sex at much younger ages and raising the population in which in turn is killing the very planet in which we depend to live (if you even try to argue this point, please don’t with me, you will not change my mind; it is what it is and facts are facts), yet we choose to assure that innocence is annihilated with a simple introduction to media. I would like to know why it is people find it ok to sit and watch something like that, yet they wouldn’t stand in front of their parents or more than likely anyone else for that matter and watch in person. IMO this fascination is rooted more in the aspect of an analogy a child finding burping and farting fascinating, after all these are bodily functions as well. I agree that parents need to take a dominate role in assuring their children are properly informed, but there is no way that a parent can control their child’s thoughts or actions throughout their entire life, nor are they responsible for that child when the legal age of adulthood is reached. It does not take a trained psychologist to see the logic behind how excessive visual and vocal ideologies will impact a person’s thought process, but this is ignored. Is it that people like to have something to complain about, that people like being uneducated and would rather choose to indulge in something that you really do not have to use the brain too much, keeping society far away from their full potential (laziness), or is it that people really aren’t as “dominate” in that region of life? I am placing this in general religious debates due to many people’s morality basis being rooted in religion.

Do you believe that sex is healthy for people?

 

[shawn001]

"Primates, at least those highly evolved (monkeys and apes) regularly masturbate! 'Cause primates not only possess the brain, but are also very handy�

Monkeys from South America (like spider monkeys and howler monkeys), that possess prehensile tails, use the tail, too, with this purpose. Apes (gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobo) use to caress their penis with their hands, feet and even their mouth! Bonobos, also wrongly named dwarf chimpanzees (they are indeed closely related to chimpanzees, but are by no means smaller), frequently masturbate and practice sexual orgies, in which individuals of all ages participate. And in bonobo, females masturbate (photo above), too, which is very unusual.

But not only primates masturbate. Elephants were observed making use of their trunks for this purpose.

And dolphins rubbing themselves against the seabed.

This should not amaze us at all, as cetaceans (whales and dolphins) and elephants are considered to possess the most developed neocortex, along with the primates (in other words, these three groups are considered the most intelligent mammals).

Do Animals Masturbate? - Softpedia

 

[Dirty Penguin]

"Primates, at least those highly evolved (monkeys and apes) regularly masturbate! 'Cause primates not only possess the brain, but are also very handy�

Monkeys from South America (like spider monkeys and howler monkeys), that possess prehensile tails, use the tail, too, with this purpose. Apes (gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobo) use to caress their penis with their hands, feet and even their mouth! Bonobos, also wrongly named dwarf chimpanzees (they are indeed closely related to chimpanzees, but are by no means smaller), frequently masturbate and practice sexual orgies, in which individuals of all ages participate. And in bonobo, females masturbate (photo above), too, which is very unusual.

But not only primates masturbate. Elephants were observed making use of their trunks for this purpose.

And dolphins rubbing themselves against the seabed.

This should not amaze us at all, as cetaceans (whales and dolphins) and elephants are considered to possess the most developed neocortex, along with the primates (in other words, these three groups are considered the most intelligent mammals).

Do Animals Masturbate? - Softpedia

:clap and I find that the human primate really isn't all that different.

 

[horizon_mj1]

Lack self restraint and control on doing what?

Simply said: IMO if that is all you find to put the use of your brain toward, it is no wander the world is in the state it is in. There is so much more to life than sex (NOT that I am against it; I am against the impractical obsession) but if that is all you want to think about, you will Never be any better than any other mammal and do not deserve to be deemed "dominate" especially when you are nothing more than all the rest. If "control" and "restraint" were used the Earth would not be dieing from our arrogant actions of over population (1) and serious problems would not arise in our children's mentalities due to the extreme expectation that you are no better than how you look (are people even aware of how many kids both male and female who have serious self image issues: oh thats right we are not responsible for feeding their brains with images of how you should look and how you should act; yeah right we do a good job of trying to assure they are as vapid as possible) (2) Aside from that if as many people took time to try and solve serious issues that need to be solved instead of making excuses such as "I'm only human" for their actions, maybe we could make the planet a better place for everyone. I really do not give a rat's a** what people do as long as they do not shove things down people's throats, something I see both medial representations and Religions guilty of. We have created a world in which morality is nothing more than a second hand issue and rape children of their choices by implanting in their innocent minds how we think they "should" be.
(Sorry Koldo, I am not trying to lash out at you personally, this is I guess my answer to other's posts as well)

 

[horizon_mj1]

:clap and I find that the human primate really isn't all that different.

Then maybe you should go join them being their so great in your eyes. I prefer to be better than that but can understand why maybe you wouldn't

 

[horizon_mj1]

Do you believe that sex is healthy for people?

Absolutely. It is the unnecessary obsession with it I do not agree with. It is no different than a person with an eating disorder or some other psychological disorder IMO; it is just a disorder shared by a greater population therefore overlooked and as with all psychological disorders excuses are made to try and make it acceptable.

 

[horizon_mj1]

"Primates, at least those highly evolved (monkeys and apes) regularly masturbate! 'Cause primates not only possess the brain, but are also very handy�

Monkeys from South America (like spider monkeys and howler monkeys), that possess prehensile tails, use the tail, too, with this purpose. Apes (gorillas, orangutans, chimpanzees, bonobo) use to caress their penis with their hands, feet and even their mouth! Bonobos, also wrongly named dwarf chimpanzees (they are indeed closely related to chimpanzees, but are by no means smaller), frequently masturbate and practice sexual orgies, in which individuals of all ages participate. And in bonobo, females masturbate (photo above), too, which is very unusual.

But not only primates masturbate. Elephants were observed making use of their trunks for this purpose.

And dolphins rubbing themselves against the seabed.

This should not amaze us at all, as cetaceans (whales and dolphins) and elephants are considered to possess the most developed neocortex, along with the primates (in other words, these three groups are considered the most intelligent mammals).

Do Animals Masturbate? - Softpedia

To me this is nothing more than proof form Nature that sex is healthy, not that sex should be glamorized, it is a function so is taking a crap but you don't see people obsessing over it (for the most part anyway:sarcastic)

 

[Koldo]

Simply said: IMO if that is all you find to put the use of your brain toward, it is no wander the world is in the state it is in. There is so much more to life than sex (NOT that I am against it; I am against the impractical obsession) but if that is all you want to think about, you will Never be any better than any other mammal and do not deserve to be deemed "dominate" especially when you are nothing more than all the rest. If "control" and "restraint" were used the Earth...

You know you didn't answer my question, right?

Or do you mean to say that porn is a weakness for those who lack self restraint and control in everything?

 

[Dirty Penguin]

Then maybe you should go join them being their so great in your eyes. I prefer to be better than that but can understand why maybe you wouldn't

....My sexual 'perversion' is intact and very healthy. Sex Ed class could never teach me as much as I know from my fascination with porn and I am much "better" for it...

 

[Kathryn]

By the way, the world's birth rate is DECREASING, not INCREASING.

Birth rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gjallarhorn]

By the way, the world's birth rate is DECREASING, not INCREASING.

Birth rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Good...maybe our exponential growth with drop off...

 

[horizon_mj1]

You know you didn't answer my question, right?

Or do you mean to say that porn is a weakness for those who lack self restraint and control in everything?

Yes I do mean to say that porn is a weakness for those who lack self restraint (maybe not in everything).