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Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Dan Mellis, Jun 6, 2019.

  1. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member
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    I always thought that conservative supported conservation and preservation of the eco system.. but that is no longer true.
     
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    It could be harder to detect religiosity on the left because they've
    a culture of more hesitance to air such views in public. So I can't
    speak to the degree...just that both sides are afflicted with it.
     
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    Neo-Paganism and Wicca tends to attract left-wingers and progressives. The majority I've met personally would certainly qualify.

    Of course there are also far, far right Pagans too. Heathenry in particular has a very definite split, particularly in regards to racial views. Both sides of that divide take a very dim view of the other.
     
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    What about the narration of the "Good Samaritan"?
    That was a clarification by Jesus that love included even the despised.
    A clarification later strengthened in the "Beatitudes"
    And by his repeated association with "Sinners"
    And even performing healing on non Jews.
    Clearly God's love is universal.
    As is his expectation of us.
     
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    The Samaritans were an ancient Semitic people who occupied Samaria as early as 700 B.C. Samaria lies north of Judea and south of Galilee. The Samaritans claimed to be the remnants of early Hebrew tribes, and the Israelites and Samaritans felt contempt toward one another. Like the Jews, the Samaritans were strict monotheists who worshiped Yahweh.
    Who were the Samaritans? | Reference.com
    www.reference.com/history/were-samaritans-155ddd38d3fff6de
     
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    I suspect it is more cultural than religious.
    Expressions of support and love for all, is very much associated both with liberal views and with Christianity in the UK, and is far from a right wing trait.
     
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    Jesus fought against the petrifaction of religion by conservatism in his own time. By petrifaction I mean a religion based on legalism instead of empathy, authority instead of personal understanding. What has happened since is foretold in the third temptation of Jesus as told by Matthew.

    So, it seems, we will need a second coming to break us out of the new Christian conservative petrifaction. Even Paul's letters and Revelations seems to deal with this process right away.
     
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    You are confusing progressivism with liberalism. Progressives oppose stagnation based upon no other reason than it was always that way and they do not fear growth in knowledge as it pertains to growth in faith.

    That's fear of change and inability to differentiate between the elements of tradition that are changeable and those of Tradition that are not.

    As in programs for insuring social justice-living wage, the right to health care, education, shelter, food etc.?
     
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    True, liberals often see the history of religious tensions and mindfully avoid raising the topic in order to also avoid raising the historical tension.

    It is this concept of making room for the safety and comfort of others that is behind what many who resist this call political correctness.
     
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    In regards to the OP, because I believe that the right-wing has fashioned Jesus in their own image, which includes heavily injecting right-wing politics into their concept of him.
     
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    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    If you actually believed the above, then you certainly wouldn't be for Trump.
     
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    Funny kind of love that encourages the stoning of your kids if they misbehave and the genocide of races. Clearly, gods love is not all encompassing and that is in no way what is expected by the god of the bible.
     
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    I'd argue that conservativism fights to preserve tradition and morals often in the face of evidence that suggests its immorality and/or lack of use. They may even ignore evidence or deny it... for example if they were to bring up gender fluidity and how there are only two sexes (forgetting that gender is different) they might be tempted to gloss over the thousands of years of transvestitism we have documentation for... there's even a reference to it in the bible. Clearly it's always been a thing.

    Progressive attitudes seek to find the best way forward for everyone and don't fall into fallacies about how to determine that. Progressive thinkers may not always get it right right, but at least they're willing to try.

    They had slavery for a long time, does that mean that slavery was right? The length of time a fact is accepted does not bear relevance to its truth. If that were the case then germ theory and evolution would neither have been investigated, never mind acknowledged.

    Data is important to determine what is true, philosophy and an open mind is often, if not always, what is required to determine what is right. If someone wanted to identify as a toaster, why shouldn't they? It wouldnt be a problem if we had gender neutral facilities. It wouldn't affect you or me, even if it was literally impossible for them to be a toaster.
     
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  14. Landon Caeli

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    I don’t understand why you think "loving thy neighbour" and the sanctity of life, would not be right wing... Some of the kindest, nicest people I've ever met were right wing. Some of the biggest jerks on the left.
     
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    Apologies, this wasnt intended as a comment about their personality :) simply that conservative beliefs tend towards not allowing equal rights to certain sects of life and only loving thy neighbour as far as you're told to by your priest.
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    Honestly, the right has never been against progress. It's just that the left has claimed that title for their own. In fact, just a few years ago, Bill and Hillary Clinton both openly opposed same sex marriage.

    Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Defense of Marriage Act, explained

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...6c947fd0cb8_story.html?utm_term=.8e0e6cd92d05
     
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    Landon Caeli What's your stoyle?

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    I think Milo Yiannopoulos might disagree. :) he's a far-right conservative who has a thing for black men.

    The many faces of Milo:

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    I'm not sure I understand. What right wing politics is contrary to "loving thy neighbor" or, how is "loving thy neighbor and the sanctity of life" find their co-existence with left wing politics? your statement doesn't seem to explain anything.
     
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    Once again, labels and inherently purposely skewed statements stumble into a post.

    Loving your neighbor and the sanctity of life are ¨ left wing"things ? What pap.

    Simply inflammatory verbal gymnastics,

    To a lefty, love your neighbor means that your neighbor is endowed with no accountability for anything they do. Loving is giving license. Christ, our example, said the word repent more than love. A criminal concept to the lefty mind. Since nothing is wrong unless you break the law, to point out the need for repentance by Christś standard, you are ¨unloving¨.

    Sanctity of life is a left wing concept ? Get real. Lefties proudly praise the genocide of thousands of babies every year. They love the language manipulation game and adopt the scientific term, fetus, an unborn child till birth, as a word they can hide in, look the other way, and stare like the eyes of a deer in the headlights and say¨ kill it,it aint a baby¨

    Oh yrs, then there is infanticide, another lefty idea regarding the sanctity of life. When an abortionist bocthes his/her job in their grisly calling, and a live child results, the lefties love the idea of simply letting the child die with no medical treatment ot suppport whatsoever
     
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    Let's talk about the concept of purity for a moment as it's very relevant to the topic at hand.

    One of the things that characterizes both religious and political conservatism is the concept of purity. Sometimes this is (mis)construed as closed-mindedness, but that's not really the heart of it. These are people who have a strong conception of what something is supposed to be, and all unnecessaries are to be excised or subverted to maintain the status quo. This often, though not always, makes cultural purists intolerant of diversity or pluralism as it represents a direct threat to said purity.

    It is important to note that being highly religious does not necessarily mean being a purist, though as a culture we tend to associate the two with each other. We probably do that because some of the more vocal political-religious movements marry themselves with purity, but this isn't a universal.
     
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