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Featured Why is the cross so mysterious?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Teritos, Apr 7, 2021.

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  1. Teritos

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    Hebrew Tav isn't a cross shape. Taw - Wikipedia

    Laminins are not cross-shaped either: what you show is a diagram showing how a laminin is formed, not what it really looks like. They actually look something like this: Laminin - Wikipedia

    Your last sentence is written as a statement but is followed by a question mark, as if it is a question. Which do you mean?
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Imagine if it was the electric chair. People would be wearing little electric chairs around their necks!

    Rip Dave Allen
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I remember that Laminin sermon. Oh boy!



    Gotta love the music score to set the mood.
     
  5. Teritos

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    The letters of the Hebrew alphabet have changed over time. In ancient Hebrew, the letter Tav was a cross, a Jew here can confirm that.
     
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    Crucifixion was a common method of capital punishment by the Romans. After the Spartacus revolt, six thousand survivors of said revolt captured by the legions of Crassus were crucified, lining the Appian Way from Rome to Capua.
     
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    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    Ironically, most crosses for crucifixion probably weren't shaped like crosses, but more likely were T-shaped or sometimes even simple poles.
     
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    The first Hebrew letter started off as a depiction of a bull's head.

    So I guess the Golden Calf is worthy of worship too.

    [​IMG]
     
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    According to the link I provided it was a cross in Phoenician script.

    And your statement/question? What was that?
     
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    Kooky Freedom from Sanity

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    The cross actually became a symbol fairly late in Christianity's history, and was preceded by two other symbols during the era of the Roman Empire.
    One of the earliest symbols of Christianity was the Fish or "ICHTYS" (an acronym for the Greek first letters for "Jesus Christ", "God", "Son" and "Savior")
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    The other was the Chi-Rho (standing for the first two letters of the Greek christos) or Labarum:
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    The latter would often be flown as standard or emblem by Christian Roman Emperors.
     
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    Did you know that King Solomon made bull statues and placed them in front of the temple of God? In front of the most holy one?

    But what is very interesting, if you write all the letters of ancient Hebrew in a line, you can see that the bull(Aleph) always looks to the left, and we know that Hebrew is read from right to left, so the bull moves to the left until it arrives at the last letter, at the letter Tav(Cross). This is very interesting. The bull moves to the goal(cross) and what happens at the cross? The bull was also used as a sacrifice in ancient Israel.
     
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    This is very fanciful but doesn't actually mean anything.
     
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    Phoenician is Middle Hebrew, but look at Paleo-Hebrew in your linked page, there Tav is also shown as a cross.
     
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    Mysterious to whom?
     
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    Much like fundamentalist Islamic insistence that Muhammad was prophesied in the Bible, some Christians seem willing to claim anything and everything no matter how outlandish or revisionist in order to lend credence to their beliefs by appropriating previous religions' texts or beliefs.

    The only thing being crucified here is intellectual clarity and historical accuracy.
     
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    a empty cross ,,,would be laying down . only reason for it to be standing is if a body was hung on it
     
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    As well as X-shaped.
     
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