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Featured Why is the Bible the Final Authority on What is or isn't "Christian"?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Sunstone, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. 12jtartar

    12jtartar Active Member
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    Muffled,
    It makes no difference how anyone judges you or anyone else!!
    Notice how Paul put this, 1Corinthians 4:3-5.
    We are to be judged by what the Bible says that we should do, or not do, and we will be judged by Jesus when he comes again to earth, Acts 17:31, 2Thessalonians 1:6-10, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 19:11-21. We were given, in God’s word, the conditions that would be on earth, when Jesus returns. Those conditions are clearly seen today. If we would like to live forever, in a paradise earth, it would behave us to follow, as closely as we can, Jesus footsteps, 1Peter 2:21. Jesus is at the door, now!!!
    Agape!!!
     
  2. GoodguyWeirdwas

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    the Bible is our Christian manual and it is one of the tools that God uses to talk to his children.
     
  3. Profound Realization

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    What is the exegesis behind the author's text?

    For instance, someone can put their trust in "God" and not put their trust in the Bible.

    For instance, man wrote the Bible. Yet, cursed is the man who puts their trust in men.

    For instance, it says not to put trust in the heart. What happens after the heart is transformed?

    For instance, the "Word of God" can be interpreted by someone to not mean "the Bible."

    Another instance, it states that it is appointed for man to die once. What death is it referring to? The Bible mentions "die to self." Or death as in some sort of separation from "God." Then there is the literal interpretation that someone physical literally dies once.

    Wouldn't it be called "the words of God" if it were the Bible, rather than singular?

    Then even in the first century, the Pharisees questioned Jesus on texts taken literally about marriage and a wife and brothers. And Jesus said that they erred in the texts. Does this mean not to take the texts literally?

    What fruit does one get by needing to know about the past? Not only does it seem that people are told they have to believe in a "God" that is very evil if the texts are taken literally, but they also have to believe in a book and take that literally as well.
     
  4. Muffled

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    I like this one:
    mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy by thy name, and by thy name cast out demons, and by thy name do many mighty works?
    23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

    The fact is that I know Jesus as my Lord and Savior. I respect the Bible but I obey God. Whenever He finds something I am doing that He doesn't like He lets me know and I change my ways. It is much too easy to justify wrong actions by misinterpreting the Bible which is what slaveholders in the south did.
     
  5. Hockeycowboy

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    Excellent Scripture! Raises interesting questions: like, since it takes power to "cast out demons" & "do many mighty (powerful) works", from what source would these ones get this power? Apparently, not from Jesus or His Father! And why?

    But your last sentence is what I wanted to focus on.... Jesus said His followers would be ID'd by their LOVE, for each other AND EVEN their enemies. So, if one is interpreting (i.e., living by) Scripture using love as a guide, as opposed to selfishness (because, really, the opposite of love isn't hate as much as it is selfishness), then that is probably the more accurate and divinely approved way to live. Hurting another, let alone killing others, would definitely be a misinterpretation of the Bible Thruout the centuries, millions have gotten it wrong....and still are..... because they've followed the crowd. The truthfulness of Revelation 12:9 is so obvious.

    Take care.

    EDIT: I guess, since the Bible contains within its pages, the Laws given to Israel, a person should ask himself, "Do I want to live as an Israelite under the Mosaic Law, or as a follower of Christ?" They are different things.
     
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  6. Muffled

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    Yes, I believe the Bible describes what is love and what is not but even that can be misinterpreted.

    I believe following Christ fo many is just a way to follow a new law. I believe having received Jesus as Lord and Savior that I am in Christ and love is in me as a fruit of the Spirit.
    Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
    23 meekness, self-control; against such there is no law.


     
  7. Hockeycowboy

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    Fortunately, for Christians there are many other Scriptures that reinforce and clarify this issue. To start out, Paul gave us the definition of agápe love @ 1 Corinthians 13:1-8; couple that with the counsel of Philippians 2:2-4 and Ephesians 4:22-25; Ephesians 4:29-32 and Colossians 3:12-14, etc., etc. Then to emphasize how important it all is, we were given the admonition at 1 John 4:8-16, 1 John 4:20,21, and 1 John 3:10-15. These passages can only be misinterpreted by those looking for excuses.

    Take care.
     
  8. Muffled

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    Think about romantic love. A girl came to me one day and told me all the good things about herself. If love were just going through a list of all the good things I should have loved her but the truth is there was no romantic love between us.

    I believe you can read passages about love in the Bible until you are dizzy but it won't put love in your heart. Probably what works best is the recognition of this one: 1Jo 4:19 We love, because he first loved us.
     
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