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Why is pornography bad?

Skwim

Veteran Member
Assuming that those who participate in porn do so willingly, why should porn be demonized or at least condemned?

If you claim that it provokes lust please explain why lust is necessarily bad, AND THEN be prepared to back up your contention that porn actually provokes lust with facts.
 

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
If sex for any other reason than procreation is bad, then pornography MUST be bad, right? I mean, pronography isn't promoting procreation, is it?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Usually pornography is bad cuz the gals are skanky looking.
I don't want the gov't to get involved regulating it though.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
If sex for any other reason than procreation is bad, then pornography MUST be bad, right? I mean, pronography isn't promoting procreation, is it?
So what if sex for any other reason than procreation isn't bad? But if indeed it is bad, why so?
 

Engyo

Prince of Dorkness!
So what if sex for any other reason than procreation isn't bad? But if indeed it is bad, why so?
I personally don't have a problem with sex for pleasure, or with pornography in general. I was just offering what I thought the rationale seems to be.
 

dust1n

Zindīq
I suppose when the results for an individual are bad (say, porn addiction), then it would be bad then because of the bad results that aren't necessarily inherent in pornography itself, but between pornography and an individual.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I suppose when the results for an individual are bad (say, porn addiction), then it would be bad then because of the bad results that aren't necessarily inherent in pornography itself, but between pornography and an individual.
Quite right. The responsibility for the abuse of anything lies not in the thing itself but in the abuser.
 

Rainbow Mage

Lib Democrat/Agnostic/Epicurean-ish/Buddhist-ish
Assuming that those who participate in porn do so willingly, why should porn be demonized or at least condemned? .

Because masturbation causes your hands to fall off. :areyoucra (That's what my fundamentalist aunt said anyway when I was growing up)
 

Duck

Well-Known Member
Assuming that those who participate in porn do so willingly, why should porn be demonized or at least condemned?

If you claim that it provokes lust please explain why lust is necessarily bad, AND THEN be prepared to back up your contention that porn actually provokes lust with facts.

The arguments are usually based on the idea that "lust" is bad in and of itself, that porn doesn't lead to babies (masturbation = one way ticket to hell, insane asylums, and hair on the palm, oh, and Yahweh punished Onan for "spilling his seed" instead of for violating Yahweh's command), and that pleasure is bad. Other arguments I have heard is that porn (presumably hetero porn) leads to the objectification of women, as well as, the reinforcement of patriarchal social constructs. Folks that object to porn in general always object to gay male porn (don't hear nearly as many objections to lesbian porn, oddly), mostly, IMO, because of the knee jerk objection to anything dealing with gay male sex.
 

Dezzie

Well-Known Member
The reason why I don't like Porn is because it gives a false impression on what love really is. Love between two people shouldn't just be for sexual pleasure. You don't see two people falling in love in a porno... you just see two (sometimes more) recieving that sexual pleasure with strangers.
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Assuming that those who participate in porn do so willingly, why should porn be demonized or at least condemned?

If you claim that it provokes lust please explain why lust is necessarily bad, AND THEN be prepared to back up your contention that porn actually provokes lust with facts.

Bible principles make it clear that pornography is bad and unacceptable for those claiming to be Christian. “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.” (Colossians 3:5)
The Bible is not speaking of marital intimacy and pleasure. It is referring to wrong desires for immoral conduct. Such unclean desires can cause one to make sexual gratification more important than all else; in effect, putting it ahead of family and God. One viewing pornography is certainly not deadening his body members toward immoral sexual conduct.

Ephesians 5:3,4 makes it clear that persons engaging in such conduct and refusing to change do not have God's favor. "Let fornication and uncleanness of every sort or greediness not even be mentioned among you, just as it befits holy people; neither shameful conduct nor foolish talking nor obscene jesting, things which are not becoming, but rather the giving of thanks. For you know this, recognizing it for yourselves, that no fornicator or unclean person or greedy person—which means being an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of the Christ and of God."

Following quote from
g03 7/22 pp. 6-7 "the National Foundation for Family Research and Education concluded that “exposure to pornography puts viewers at increased risk for developing sexually deviant tendencies.” According to the report, “the rape myth (belief that women cause and enjoy rape, and that rapists are normal) is very widespread in habitual male users of pornography.”
Some researchers say that the repeated use of pornography can interfere with the ability to enjoy and participate in normal marital intimacy. Dr. Victor Cline, a specialist in treating sex addiction, has noticed a recurring progression in the use of pornography. If left unchecked, what starts as casual viewing of pornography can eventually lead to an escalation to more hard-core, aberrant material. This, he claims, can lead to deviant sexual acts. Behavioral scientists agree. Dr. Cline reports that “any type of sexual deviation can be acquired in this way . . . and that it cannot be eliminated even by massive feelings of guilt.” Eventually, the viewer may try to act out the pornography-based, immoral fantasies, often with devastating results.
The course of this problem may be gradual and undetected, concluded Cline. He states: “Like a cancer, it keeps growing and spreading. It rarely ever reverses itself, and it is also very difficult to treat and heal. Denial on the part of the male addict and refusal to confront the problem are typical and predictable, and this almost always leads to marital or couple disharmony, sometimes divorce, and sometimes the breaking up of other intimate relationships.”
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
"Porno" means 'evil.'

"Graphy" means 'pictures.'
 

linwood

Well-Known Member
The reason why I don't like Porn is because it gives a false impression on what love really is. Love between two people shouldn't just be for sexual pleasure. You don't see two people falling in love in a porno... you just see two (sometimes more) recieving that sexual pleasure with strangers.

Who in their right mind would ever equate porn with love?

That isn`t the problem of porn, that is the problem of a deeply confused human.

If we could just get past equating sex with love this whole porn thing would blow over.

:)

Sex does not equal love people.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
"Porno" means 'evil.'

"Graphy" means 'pictures.'
"Porn"
Etymology
porn (n.)
1962, abbreviation of pornography (q.v.). Porno (adj.) is attested from 1952.
Source: Online Etymology Dictionary

"Pornography"
Etymology
The word derives from the Greek πορνογραφία (pornographia), which derives from the Greek words πόρνη (pornē, "prostitute" and pornea, "prostitution"), and γράφω (graphō, "I write or record," derived meaning "illustration," cf. "graph"), and the suffix -ία (-ia, meaning "state of," "property of," or "place of"), thus meaning "a written description or illustration of prostitutes or prostitution."
"Prostitute"
Etymology and terminology
"To prostitute" is derived from a composition of two Latin words: (preposition) pro and (verb) statuere. A literal translation therefore would be: "to expose", "to place up front".
Source: Wikipedia​
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Bible principles make it clear that pornography is bad and unacceptable for those claiming to be Christian. “Deaden, therefore, your body members that are upon the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.” (Colossians 3:5)
The Bible is not speaking of marital intimacy and pleasure. It is referring to wrong desires for immoral conduct. Such unclean desires can cause one to make sexual gratification more important than all else; in effect, putting it ahead of family and God. One viewing pornography is certainly not deadening his body members toward immoral sexual conduct.

Ephesians 5:3,4 makes it clear that persons engaging in such conduct and refusing to change do not have God's favor. "Let fornication and uncleanness of every sort or greediness not even be mentioned among you, just as it befits holy people; neither shameful conduct nor foolish talking nor obscene jesting, things which are not becoming, but rather the giving of thanks. For you know this, recognizing it for yourselves, that no fornicator or unclean person or greedy person—which means being an idolater—has any inheritance in the kingdom of the Christ and of God."

Following quote from
g03 7/22 pp. 6-7 "the National Foundation for Family Research and Education concluded that “exposure to pornography puts viewers at increased risk for developing sexually deviant tendencies.” According to the report, “the rape myth (belief that women cause and enjoy rape, and that rapists are normal) is very widespread in habitual male users of pornography.”
Some researchers say that the repeated use of pornography can interfere with the ability to enjoy and participate in normal marital intimacy. Dr. Victor Cline, a specialist in treating sex addiction, has noticed a recurring progression in the use of pornography. If left unchecked, what starts as casual viewing of pornography can eventually lead to an escalation to more hard-core, aberrant material. This, he claims, can lead to deviant sexual acts. Behavioral scientists agree. Dr. Cline reports that “any type of sexual deviation can be acquired in this way . . . and that it cannot be eliminated even by massive feelings of guilt.” Eventually, the viewer may try to act out the pornography-based, immoral fantasies, often with devastating results.
The course of this problem may be gradual and undetected, concluded Cline. He states: “Like a cancer, it keeps growing and spreading. It rarely ever reverses itself, and it is also very difficult to treat and heal. Denial on the part of the male addict and refusal to confront the problem are typical and predictable, and this almost always leads to marital or couple disharmony, sometimes divorce, and sometimes the breaking up of other intimate relationships.”
I'm sure you have something of interest to say here, but I refuse to squint to see what it is.
 
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