Why Is Only Earth Carrying Life?

[arthurchappell]

A death star like attack could obviously take us out from afar - the main reason to hit Jupiter is that it is lifeless. We could theoretically at least fire missiles and even manned spacecraft to lead the fight back if the aliens came within range or actually invaded our World. Also Jupiter being so big, it holds the solar system together with its gravity. With Jupiter gone other planets would be set drifting wildly until things adjust to new orbits - We would be stuffed

 

[Regiomontanus]

Why would God only put life on one of the planets at least in our solar system? Most worlds are undoubtedly just lumps or rock, ice and gas. Why would God not create other species and peoples for those? It seems a terribly wasted opportunity. Even if we find some life on more distant stars, it is clear that the bulk of the universe is devoid of life. Without God that is easy to grasp why, but with a God, it would seem that creation experimentation would be carried out elsewhere.

Hello. There are of course some theological assumptions in your post. Process theology makes more sense, to me, of many things we observe to be true (for example suffering, as well as the "waste" you mention). But anyway we need to make a distinction between life and complex, intelligent life. I would bet that the cosmos is full of microbial life. But the conditions/circumstances needed for complex life to arise amounts to a very fine filter of sorts: large bodies to deflect debris, as you pointed out, plate tectonics (important here for carbon sequestration), our (comparatively) huge moon which stabilizes things here,...the list goes on.

But it is a big universe and we should not be too quick in reaching any conclusions. The Kepler mission only searched a relatively small volume of space in one corner of just our galaxy...

Peace.

 

[arthurchappell]

I actually do rather quite fancy the notion of my child growing up to become a space cadet. Of course, space exploration can be a concerted global effort. Please urge your prime minister and parliamentary representative member to increase tax payer support for advanced space exploration.

our space programme is very limited - we haven't even put a manned rocket out yet - and getting Brexit is likely to be more of a chore than exit to Mars for our PM for a while

 

[arthurchappell]

our space programme is very limited - we haven't even put a manned rocket out yet - and getting Brexit is likely to be more of a chore than exit to Mars for our PM for a while

obviously harder for us to find microbes than advanced civilisations that have cities and huge power / light sources to look out for. Life would be anything with DNA not necessarily intelligence, but without actually landing on remote worlds we won't find a clump of lichen - a civilized planet nation could feasiblly be identified by radio telescopes from Earth - otherwise with so little out there it is a needle in a haystack search

 

[Salvador]

our space programme is very limited - we haven't even put a manned rocket out yet - and getting Brexit is likely to be more of a chore than exit to Mars for our PM for a while

Space is a very dangerous place for humans, so there, robots should be deployed in place of humans.
"Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid, in fact it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did" - Elton John, Rocket Man (1972)

 

[arthurchappell]

Space is a very dangerous place for humans, so there, robots should be deployed in place of humans.
"Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid, in fact it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did" - Elton John, Rocket Man (1972)

With a great cover by Kate Bush too

 

[Rational Agnostic]

If abiogenesis is true; then we should see life popping up elsewhere in the universe since there are so many stars and so many planets.

Why? It may be that life arises from natural processes, but does so very rarely, and only when certain conditions are met. Also, we have only observed an extremely tiny portion of our own galaxy, let alone the whole universe. We have no idea how common life is.

 

[74x12]

Why? It may be that life arises from natural processes, but does so very rarely, and only when certain conditions are met. Also, we have only observed an extremely tiny portion of our own galaxy, let alone the whole universe. We have no idea how common life is.

The sheer number of stars and planets likely to be around those stars makes it highly probable that abiogenesis would make life elsewhere; if it made it here.

As for the 2nd part of what you said; I basically said the same thing in my post.

 

[roger1440]

Why would God only put life on one of the planets at least in our solar system?

How do you know "God only put life on one of the planets at least in our solar system"?

 

[Salvador]

With a great cover by Kate Bush too

She's very pretty in her music video! Now what was it she was singing about?

 

[Salvador]

Space is a very dangerous place for humans, so there, robots should be deployed in place of humans.
"Mars ain't the kind of place to raise a kid, in fact it's cold as hell. And there's no one there to raise them, if you did" - Elton John, Rocket Man (1972)

Speaking of cold as hell, makes me ponder where we humans would be on Earth without camp fires or furnaces. There was this sickly old lonely man who had finally gathered enough strength during a cold sabbath day to collect fire wood. Strangers caught him there working on the sabbath, and God ordered him to death.

(Numbers 15:32-36)--"Now while the sons of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man gathering wood on the sabbath day. And those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron, and to all the congregation; and they put him in custody because it had not been declared what should be done to him. Then the Lord said to Moses, "The man shall surely be put to death; all the congregation shall stone him with stones outside the camp." So all the congregation brought him outside the camp, and stoned him to death with stones, just as the Lord had commanded Moses."

What the heck, why would anybody want to follow this God?

 

[james dixon]

I'd like to urge you then to please advise our Senate, Congress and President to expand our tax-payer funded resources for advance space exploration.

Those moons I showed had "green" areas along the cracks of these moons. These areas could be agro farms producing the biomass they use for food while the inhabitants live within the moon?

 

[james dixon]

What the heck, why would anybody want to follow this God?

They shouldn't. The true God would not do such a thing.

 

[james dixon]

my only advice to Trump would be resign and confess to Mueller

He would't and then he will be impeached, the impeachment will be sent to Congress and then with one loud voice every congressman/women will stand up and in unison say--------------

***TRUMP YOU ARE FIRED***​

- his Space Farce projects won't come close to even looking into WOW notions

You got it right, it's a "space fart"
lol

 

[InChrist]

Why would God only put life on one of the planets at least in our solar system? Most worlds are undoubtedly just lumps or rock, ice and gas. Why would God not create other species and peoples for those? It seems a terribly wasted opportunity. Even if we find some life on more distant stars, it is clear that the bulk of the universe is devoid of life. Without God that is easy to grasp why, but with a God, it would seem that creation experimentation would be carried out elsewhere.

I can't say why there are other planets out there, but I doubt that God wastes anything. As far as life goes, it may be that God is more concerned with quality rather than quantity. Clearly humans have been responsible for quite a bit of damage here on this one planet earth. The Bible states that human sin brings about harmful consequences to oneself, other people, animals, and all creation on earth. Yet, God offers a remedy through Jesus Christ who came to earth. God had to become a human, like us—to redeem us; to pay the penalty for our sins and offer transformation and freedom form sin. Any creature created by God is less than God, any creatures that God would create anywhere, on any other planet would also sin, like us and cause damage on other planets. So then, if God created other humanoid-like creatures out there Jesus Christ would have to go through the whole process of providing salvation for the inhabitants of those planet. That doesn't appear to be God's plan. The scriptures portray the earth as God's focus of this universe. It’s to this earth that Christ came. It’s to this earth that Satan comes. It is on this earth that the battle for the minds and hearts of humans takes place. It’s to this earth that Antichrist arises. It’s on this earth that Armageddon will be fought. The Millennial kingdom will be set up on earth. Afterwards God will create a new heaven and a new earth.

The scriptures reveal that there will be multitudes who come from the earth who will live for eternity. It may be that God considers those multitudes from the earth who have turned from their sin and been set free by His love, enough...

After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. Revelation 7:9

 

[Etritonakin]

Why would God only put life on one of the planets at least in our solar system? Most worlds are undoubtedly just lumps or rock, ice and gas. Why would God not create other species and peoples for those? It seems a terribly wasted opportunity. Even if we find some life on more distant stars, it is clear that the bulk of the universe is devoid of life. Without God that is easy to grasp why, but with a God, it would seem that creation experimentation would be carried out elsewhere.

It is not known whether or not there is physical, planet-bound life elsewhere.

However, it is stated in the bible that not only the Earth, but "the heavens" were "created not in vain" but "were formed to be inhabited" (Isaiah 45)

It is also written that we will be given "glorious" bodies similar to that which allows the Word who became Christ to "subdue all things unto himself" -which more than suggests power over cosmic forces by a body with a much more powerful and direct interface -acting by fiat, etc. (Phil 3:21)

Other verses explain that those who are literally born again of the spirit will move as the wind -not as we presently do.

Not only will we eventually inhabit the universe, but may be the creators of life elsewhere.

Romans 8 explains that the children of God will free the entire creation from its bondage to decay.

 

[Kenny]

Aren't you one of those who believe that "any day now" armageddon will begin? That doesn't leave much time for man to develop the technology needed to colonize distant star systems.

Armageddon isn't the end of the world.

 

[Polymath257]

not saying there is no life elsewhere but that it is rare - the number of inhabited worlds seems extremely low compared to barren worlds - if god made us in his own image and we like to imagine the worlds of science fiction, why not God as he is in a position to actually world build rather than imagine and describe the process

We have no evidence of these claims. At best, we can say that *intelligent, technological* life seems rare locally right now. It may well be the single celled life is common (it was the only type of life on Earth for billions of years, compared to less than one billion for multicellular life). It may well be that non-technological life is common (it took a long time for humans to evolve, mind you). Either of these would be well beyond our ability to detect at present. And it may be that technological species kill themselves off quickly (in less than, say, a million years). So it may well be that other technological species just don't overlap in time with us.

We have have found many more planets around sun-like stars than *anyone* thought likely even a couple of decades ago. We have found Earth-sized planets orbiting sun-like stars within a few hundred light years of us (which is remarkably close on a galactic scale). Our investigations have, at best, collected relevant data from stars within a thousand light years or so.

It is *way* too premature to say *anything* about the commonality of life in the universe.

 

[Polymath257]

A death star like attack could obviously take us out from afar - the main reason to hit Jupiter is that it is lifeless. We could theoretically at least fire missiles and even manned spacecraft to lead the fight back if the aliens came within range or actually invaded our World. Also Jupiter being so big, it holds the solar system together with its gravity. With Jupiter gone other planets would be set drifting wildly until things adjust to new orbits - We would be stuffed

No, Jupiter does NOT hold the solar system together with its gravity. That is what the *sun* does. Jupiter is absolutely trivial in size and influence compared to the sun. If Jupiter went away, the orbit of Earth would be almost identical (only very small perturbations come from the gravity of Jupiter or of other planets).

Of course, it aliens blew up Jupiter, we would have to deal with the debris, which could cause some unpleasantness, depending on the size of what hits us.

 

[Salvador]

It is not known whether or not there is physical, planet-bound life elsewhere.

However, it is stated in the bible that not only the Earth, but "the heavens" were "created not in vain" but "were formed to be inhabited" (Isaiah 45)

It is also written that we will be given "glorious" bodies similar to that which allows the Word who became Christ to "subdue all things unto himself" -which more than suggests power over cosmic forces. (Phil 3:21)

Not only will we eventually inhabit the universe, but may be the creators of life elsewhere.

Romans 8 explains that the children of God will free the entire creation from its bondage to decay.

Parts of the heavens are indeed there for us humans to transform into biospheres sustaining human life. Mars is likely the first place beyond Earth in our solar system to get a man-made biosphere that is an appreciable fraction in size comparable to Earth's biosphere.

The first step towards the terraforming of Mars is the deployment of a magnetic shield that protects Mars against the solar wind stripping of its atmosphere. This magnetic shielding would subsequently allow the planet's atmosphere to reacquire its former density that'd be high enough to allow for sustainable surface liquid water.

Reference: https://phys.org/news/2017-03-nasa-magnetic-shield-mars-atmosphere.html