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"Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?"

Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
What I believe is an excellent explanation.



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0:00 - 0:07 the question

0:8 - 1:28 the basic answer

1:28 - 2:50 elaboration

2:50 - 3:09 fumbling with words

3:09 - 3:47 follow up question

3:47- 4:20 "the only reasonable answer"

4:20 - 4:37 irrelevant question about ecosystem

4:37 - 5:01 "argument from ignorance" and "the universe was created for black holes" quote

5:01 - 21:17 more questions and explanations

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Sound reasonable to you? It does to me.

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Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Rough Beast Sloucher said:
That's it? While that is certainly the case, was there anything else of importance covered in the 21 minutes?
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Yeah...some atheists also want believers in God to define the nature of their God to specificity, so that it'd be something verifiable or falsifiable. Well guess what, ain't gonna happen. God is almost always vaguely defined, so a person's God can neither be tested, verified nor falsified
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
lukethethird said:
"Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?"

I heard that reading The Bible can be a cause for atheism.
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The God of the Bible is false, because as I've noted elsewhere in some other discussions about Christianity, Jesus's family tree has a time span of 77 generations listed between his generation and Adam whom the Bible claims was the "first man". Reference: (Luke 3:23-38) and Eve whom the Bible claims as the mother of all the living. (Genesis 3:20)

However, the Australian aborigines have evidently been in Australia for over a thousand consecutive generations. Reference: Aboriginal Australians - Wikipedia

There have been hundreds of generations of Native Americans between the time their common ancestry migrated from Asia until the time of Christ.
Reference: Native Americans in the United States - Wikipedia

Of course, the Bible is wrong; in fact, there were people prior to the 76th generation before Christ that allegedly was spawned by Adam and Eve.

Adam as being the first man and perpetrator of original sin is an important premise of Christianity. If Adam wasn't the first man, then there isn't actually any "origin sin". Jesus supposedly died on the Cross to save humankind from "original sin". If there isn't any "original sin" from which to be saved, then Jesus Christ's death on the Cross is pretty pointless and meaningless. Evidently, there were many generations of people prior to the 76th generation before Christ whom the Bible claims was spawned by Adam. So then, Adam, Eve and original sin are mythological. There is neither any "first man" nor "original sin" throughout human evolution. Thus, Jesus Christ having died on the cross to save mankind from "original sin" is not reality but is rather mythological.
 
loverofhumanity

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
Who defines What is good or bad, moral or immoral? Society? Atheists? Government? Religion? Or human conscience? And how do we know it’s good for us or right just because it makes us feel good? Drugs may feel good too but they are an evil thing. So is war but we’ve been sent to fight war, for what reason?

Who has guided us over the centuries? Has it produced good results? WW1 and WW2 and many other wars? Who was in charge then?

So whoever we accept or whatever we accept as our model for life will shape our society. So which is the best model?

That’s the decision humanity is being confronted with daily as our world becomes more and more intermixed with different races, nationalities, races and religions and no common ethic to lessen prejudices.

But would atheism be the best principle to run our world on? What are their principles or morals?

I’ve made my choice and so far I see in the Baha’i community no bad effects for its 175 years. No wars, no sects or violence just a peaceful community worldwide.
 
Salvador

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Salvador's God is our cosmic ancestor/cosmic ancestors whose extraterrestrial intelligence has left its/their mark in our genetic code ....as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us descendants of our cosmic ancestor(s) with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

Salvador's God is the proven creator of our genetic code as evident in the "WOW! Signal of the Terrestrial Genetic Code" that scientists discovered back in 2012.

Because of the compelling evidence for Salvador's God, many atheists and Christians alike shall believe in this cosmic ancestor(s) of extraterrestrial intelligence who invented our genetic code where the semantic message of 037 is embedded by Salvador's God who is everybody's cosmic ancestor.


 
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Skwim

Skwim

Veteran Member
Salvador said:
According to many atheists, there's zero evidence God actually exists.
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I'd say, according to almost all atheists. :)


lukethethird said:
"Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?"

I heard that reading The Bible can be a cause for atheism.
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It can certainly give them reason to think about it. If it wasn't for some of the Bible's quirky statements and claims I know I probably wouldn't have given god a second thought.

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Trailblazer said:
From what I have seen it is the main cause, although atheists do not like to admit it. ;)
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Really! Hmm.
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LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
loverofhumanity said:
But would atheism be the best principle to run our world on?
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Atheism is not a principle.

Nor is theism. Which, in any case, is not at all a good choice of reference for political or ideological choices, as so solidly (and tragically) illustrated by hundreds of attempted theocracies past, present and (regrettably) future.

What are their principles or morals?
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The best morality is based in Utilitarianism, or more generally consequentialism.

The best ideological principles tend to be socialistic.

I’ve made my choice and so far I see in the Baha’i community no bad effects for its 175 years. No wars, no sects or violence just a peaceful community worldwide.
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That is an odd choice to answer your own questions.
 
Trailblazer

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
LuisDantas said:
Demographically, perhaps. And only because Islaam is still at the point of its lifecycle which forbids itself from acknowledging atheism.
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Why would that matter?
LuisDantas said:
The actual main cause is the ability to reason.
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I respectfully disagree, because it is just as reasonable that a God exists as that God does not exist, maybe even more reasonable.

I think the actual main cause of atheism is unwillingness to look at and/or inability to see the evidence for the existence of God. A secondary cause is lack of interest. If one does not think they need God, why bother to look?
 
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