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Featured Why is it so important for you to claim your belief is the only true belief?

Discussion in 'Religions Q&A' started by Conscious thoughts, May 3, 2021.

  1. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    Sitting here early morning pondering about posts in RF i been reading lately, where people claim that their religious belief is the only correct, and everyone else is fake or falls or even evil :confused:

    I am not going to sitt here telling you that my own sufi faith is better or more correct that any of what you belive, because the belief i hold in Sufism is a personal path and belief that arise from within. And even i did in the past (before becoming a sufi) as many others, claimed i had the truth, i proven to my self time and time again i did not hold the truth.....

    But why is it so dang important to "prove" to others your belief is the "exact truth" and anyone who claim different belief is a liar, fake, falls or even i heard someone call others evil for believeing differently than them self......

    What has happend to spiritual/religious people? Isnt religion supposed to take away our ego and selfishness?

    My pondering is still going on :oops:
     
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  2. Jimmy

    Jimmy Well-Known Member

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    Cuz it is lol
    No one knows mine so I’m set lol
     
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  3. Musing Bassist

    Musing Bassist Mihi Quaestio Factus Sum

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    Christianity at its core isn't a religious philosophy wherein other ways of approaching the divine may also carry as much merit. At the very core Christianity is a historical claim about something God did in real human history among real human people. If God really did reveal himself as the incarnated Christ then that true fact about history necessarily excludes contrary claims. God is who he is whether we like it or not.
     
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  4. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I think that disposition is more rare and limited then it was in the past.
     
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  5. Conscious thoughts

    Conscious thoughts Veteran Member

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    Have you seen it in RF lately?
     
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    Mestemia Advocatus Diaboli
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    How doe this show that that belief is "the only true belief"?
     
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    And if Baha'u'llah was really a Manifestation of God, then that true fact necessarily excludes contrary claims, including the claim that Jesus was God Incarnate. In that case Jesus would be a Manifestation of God rather than an incarnation of God. Jesus is who he is whether we like it or not.

    “Know thou of a certainty that the Unseen can in no wise incarnate His Essence and reveal it unto men. He is, and hath ever been, immensely exalted beyond all that can either be recounted or perceived. From His retreat of glory His voice is ever proclaiming: “Verily, I am God; there is none other God besides Me, the All-Knowing, the All-Wise. I have manifested Myself unto men, and have sent down Him Who is the Day Spring of the signs of My Revelation. Through Him I have caused all creation to testify that there is none other God except Him, the Incomparable, the All-Informed, the All-Wise.” He Who is everlastingly hidden from the eyes of men can never be known except through His Manifestation, and His Manifestation can adduce no greater proof of the truth of His Mission than the proof of His own Person.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 49
     
  8. Trailblazer

    Trailblazer Veteran Member

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    It isn't important to me, it does not even matter to me.
     
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  9. oldbadger

    oldbadger Skanky Old Mongrel!

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    Hello CT.....
    Apart from the fact that I don't want to get slapped by the mods (*ouch! ....scream! *), I don't sell my religion because there isn't anything to promote about it.
    The way I see the World, our most senior strength and power around is Mother Nature and so there's nothing to tell anybody because everything is already aware of that.

    I might just as well go outside and preach to the visiting seagulls about it all...... but they know more about it than I do... for sure.
     
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  10. RestlessSoul

    RestlessSoul Active Member

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    Since love and tolerance of others are central to my beliefs, and those beliefs are shifting all the time anyway, it would be hypocritical of me to tell others that what they believe is wrong.
     
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  11. Shakeel

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    It's called faith.
     
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    Can you expand on that? What exactly is faith, and does it exist independently of whatever it is we have faith in?
     
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  14. MikeF

    MikeF Proponent of RAEism
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    I would say that either consciously or unconsciously, there is an understanding that different beliefs, standards of behavior, rules for judging behaviors and actions, can all be a source of conflict between people and peoples. This leads to the conclusion that if everyone adopted the same beliefs, the same set of rules, the world would be a happier, safer place.

    The desire for safety and security may be the dominant factor on why many argue for one specific "correct or true" belief system.
     
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  15. Hermit Philosopher

    Hermit Philosopher Selflessly here for you

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    Telling others that they are wrong, is called faith...? Since when my friend?

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  16. A Vestigial Mote

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    I don't have a religion. Nor a set of beliefs that include anything "spiritual" whatsoever. I stake my signs of support in evidenced claims, everything else is understood to be speculation and deserves only light adherence to perhaps glean anything possibly helpful about it, and skepticism otherwise.

    As such, there is no spiritual belief that I am ever trying to claim is "right." They are all equally foolish in my opinion - and will be (in my eyes, obviously) until someone can actually pony up valid, sufficient evidence for any claims made. There is no reason I can see to adhere to any of them, and people tend to be very offended by this, or frightened, or display some other negative emotional response that belies their feeling uncomfortable and vulnerable. I don't claim that things I can't provide good evidence for are true or right. I don't. Those sorts of shenanigans I leave to believers.
     
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  17. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    often....the fail comes from nonbelievers

    I state what I believe.......

    and someone else will insist.....PROVE IT!

    note my signature
     
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  18. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Actually yes. A lot of people here have indicated that various religions including their own has its own type of truth as well as its metaphors, and myths.

    I think its only the staunch literalists that have a view that theirs is the only means to an end.
     
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    Wrong doing by us even when we think we believe the truth does not mean that we do not believe the truth.
    For me, coming into the truth is the first thing and then God works in me to change me for the rest of my life.
    Truth is truth and Jesus said that He is the truth. If a group of people say that they believe the gospel of Jesus but are actively working to take people away from that truth then they should be shown that they are wrong and how they are wrong.
     
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  20. A Vestigial Mote

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    And? Are you insinuating that your lack of ability to "prove it" is the strongest thing you have in your corner to defend your case? I do hope you see how strange that sounds. I don't see that you have said anything of any importance here... and your signature appears equally useless.
     
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