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Discussion in 'Interfaith Discussion' started by Zita, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. sooda

    sooda Veteran Member

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    You misunderstood what he said because he didn't say "June 5, 502 B.C"..

    There was NO BC until after the birth of Christ.
     
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    Perhaps you are not reading most of the post.
    Tattenai - Wikipedia
    Babylonian Cuneiform inscriptions
    A number of cuneiform tablets bearing the name Tattenai have survived as part of what may have been a family archive. The tablet that links one member of this family to the Bible character is a promissory note dated to the 20th year of Darius I, 502 BC. It identifies a witness to the transaction as a servant of “Tattannu, governor of Across-the-River”.[4] The clay tablet can be dated to June 5, 502 B.C. exactly.[5]

    If the article made an error, and you have the accurate information, why not present it?

    Also, BC is not after Christ.
     
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    There was NO Before Christ before Christ.
     
  4. Zita

    Zita Solitary Eclectic Witch

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    I understand Hockeycowboy, they lost me as well that's why I got quiet too!!
     
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    We all should know God for ourselves Zita, but would you not agree that we need evidence to confirm something? Would you not also agree that people do ignore evidence for their own selfish purposes?
    For example, is it not true the thousands - if not millions of people have lost their live ignoring evidence, and only because they were seeking their own selfish desires, or listening to those, seeking their own desires?


    Did those people have to die, or were their lives lost due to selfish desires?
    How sad that people lose their lives because selfish people wanting to satisfy their own desires hinder them from saving it.
    Some persons have died in similar events because of not wanting to leave their home.

    Another example is people who tell others that "God will not do good or bad. god will not judge you for this or that. God is not interested in religion, or any particular way of worship." Is that true? How would we know?
    Zephaniah 1:12 At that time I will carefully search Jerusalem with lamps, And I will call to account the complacent ones, who say in their heart, ‘Jehovah will not do good, and he will not do bad.’

    How sad that people will lose their lives because of listening to these opinions fueled by selfish desire.
    Are we really thinking for ourselves, or finding God for ourselves, when we listen to opinion, rather than find out what the evidence says is the truth?

    Where does the evidence point to, as the source of truth?
    The only way we can find God, is to know how he communicates his will to us, would you not agree?
    If I reject that, it is no one else's fault but mine. I will lose my life.

    Think of this. You are at the beach.
    Suddenly, the sea recedes out far into the distance.
    You never saw such a phenomenon.
    Some people start going out to the water, looking at the reefs, the shells.
    Some seem happy to see such a surprising sight.
    Some are concerned, and start to warn persons to high ground.
    However, some scoff and mock, encouraging the people not to listen to "such foolishness".

    It's our choice. We must know for ourselves if truth lies in our opinion, or what gives evidence of God's truth.
     
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    I'm with you both. Sorry about that. Someone got my clock ticking. :D Winding down... I'm done. :)
     
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    Zita Solitary Eclectic Witch

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    you are saying what I been saying all along:yes, evidence is needed but I don't see evidence of your truth, and obviously you don't see evidence to my truth, it is on a individual basis, if someone dies because he believed someones opinion, that is on that person it was his choice.so I have to seek in ways I hear my higher power not your ways, and he does show me evidence of the message he gave me. and No, I don't consider my desires as selfish at all. that my dear is your opinion and that's your privilege.
     
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    Have you never seen the sea recede like that? I have.. It means get to high ground.. Its not supernatural myth.
     
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    I was not saying anything about you, and or your desires. The statements were all generalized - nothing to do with you -, and fact, you would agree, I'm sure.
    However, what do you consider as evidence of truth? Do you see it as something relative to what one believes, or do you see it as something that needs to be examined in order to verify it 'structure'?
     
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    Where did you read anything about supernatural, fro that post? What did you understand from the post? It seem you got something apart from what's in it.
     
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    What were you trying to convey with this?

    "Where does the evidence point to, as the source of truth?
    The only way we can find God, is to know how he communicates his will to us, would you not agree?
    If I reject that, it is no one else's fault but mine. I will lose my life.

    Think of this. You are at the beach.
    Suddenly, the sea recedes out far into the distance.
    You never saw such a phenomenon.
    Some people start going out to the water, looking at the reefs, the shells.
    Some seem happy to see such a surprising sight.
    Some are concerned, and start to warn persons to high ground.
    However, some scoff and mock, encouraging the people not to listen to "such foolishness".
     
  12. Zita

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    sooda what are you talking about
     
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    Zita Solitary Eclectic Witch

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    as for evidence I mean like it someone says something,then take me to that person and that person says,yes I said this,or after someone said the bush was on fire,take me to the bush and I see a burnt bush.or someone states at 3pm the sky will turn purple ,then pink in a few minutes,and I look up to the sky at 3pm and the sky turns purple and 3 minutes later it turned pink.it's said that eating eggs will turn your lips green,and my lips turn green after I eat wo eggs.
     
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    Ah great! I can use this as an object lesson.
    Study it. Think about it.. with an open mind, rather than a mind set. Is that not how we are to study the Bible. If this is so difficult to grasp, then how much more so the Bible.
    I think this is a perfect example of why some don't understand the Bible.
    It seems it has a lot to do with what Jesus said.(Matthew 13:14, 15).
     
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    Not always the case, my friend. People will see things right before their eyes and deny that it is what it is. They will offer some other explanation for it. No amount of evidence convinces them.
    Have you not experienced this before.
    You might see your lips turn green and say, "Wait. This might not be the egg! I had some frog legs this morning..." [​IMG]

    However, that's one way we get evidence - especially when we experience it for ourselves, and it's not just a feeling, it's most convincing, but would you not agree that we sometimes have evidence that may be just as solid although not direct, but may call for reason, and logic?
    For example, the one I mentioned earlier. Do you realize that the Bible alone, is the only book which has been translated into more languages and available to over 90% of the world's population.
    There is a lot more evidence which when combined makes a solid case for the Bible being God's word. The stronger the evidence, the stronger the case - the more convincing, so we need to examine the evidence sincerely. I'm sure you agree.
     
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    What does the sea pulling way back from the shoreline have to do with the Bible or whatever it is you are claiming other people don't understand?

    Bahamians terrified as Hurricane Irma ‘sucks away’ miles ...
    Bahamians terrified as Hurricane Irma ‘sucks away’ miles of ocean (VIDEOS)ocean-disappears-irma
    The ominous-looking occurrence was in fact caused by a combination of low tide, low pressure and strong winds in the right direction, which literally pushed the water away from the long narrow bay. The phenomenon has been dubbed “reverse storm surge” by some of those explaining it online.
     
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    I am talking about this:

    Bahamians terrified as Hurricane Irma ‘sucks away’ miles ...
    Bahamians terrified as Hurricane Irma ‘sucks away’ miles of ocean (VIDEOS)ocean-disappears-irma
    The ominous-looking occurrence was in fact caused by a combination of low tide, low pressure and strong winds in the right direction, which literally pushed the water away from the long narrow bay. The phenomenon has been dubbed “reverse storm surge” by some of those explaining it online.
     
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    :facepalm:
     
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    okay and what has that to do with my thread question?
     
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    I have no clue.. nPeace threw it up as some insider knowledge of faith.
     
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