Because eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life would be Adam and Eve is making love as God intended. Eating of the Tree of Knowledge means allowing Satan to participate.
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Why is cain not mentioned in the geneology of Adam?
- Thread starter Heneni
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Because eating of the fruit of the Tree of Life would be Adam and Eve is making love as God intended. Eating of the Tree of Knowledge means allowing Satan to participate.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Ah, love as God intended. Why is this then edited out?
welcome to ignore. thats the 3rd time you have asked the same question.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Pity, ignore leads to ignorance.
smitten508
Member
Cain wasn't listed because he was the 1st human to be cast off from the ranks of God's people. Remember that in the Hebrew culture, if a person was cast off, they were removed from heirship, and a place in family history. Cain wasn't listed for the simple fact that he was in a state of disgrace. Not seen as worthy of recognition any time after his fall and subsiquent founding of a city.
Heneni
Miss Independent
Interesting. Thank you for the contribution.
That is well said; however, saying he had no city puts you in error.
This is Cain's downline.
(Gen 10:8) And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
(Gen 10:9) He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.
(Gen 10:10) And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Nope....
10:1 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.,10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 10:3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
10:4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
10:5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.10:6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. 10:7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
10:8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
Noah (descended from Adam) begat Ham, Ham begat Cush, Cush begat Nimrod.
Nope, I Take it is to say that Nimrod the mighty hunter, and his city of babel is not the downline of Cain. right. where do you get you information that says babel is a city of God. (Gen 10:10) And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
(Gen 10:11) Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
(Gen 10:12) And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same [is] a great city.
And all these cities were in the down line leading to Jerusalem the city of David. Don't you know that the Godly had godly downlines and he wicked had ungodly downlines? Or are you just misguided?:slap:
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Cain was a murder! CAIN ALSO = KENITE, they were not of the tribes in the downline of Israel. and all the wicked in their hearts are murderers, The Lord says if you hate you brother you are a murderer, ad infinitum. SAY, MAYBE LIKE A NEW SPECIES.
He was of the accursed, cast offs from the sons of God. God has three kinds of righteous and three kinds of unrighteous, GOLD, SILVER, AND Precious stones, Then there is wood, hay, and stubble. He also separates the good cattle from the bad, and the sheep from the goats, the wheat from the tares, etc But God in his good mercy allows it to rain upon the wicked as well as the righteous. Then there was Esau whom God hated which also became a downline of the murderer.
Babel was a wicked city also.
Ninevah was an Assyrian nation an enemy of God, yet they did repent at the threat of God delivered by the hand of Jonah.
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tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
I thought that was funny when I wrote it, but sometimes it happens, sorry, and thanks for the correction.
I FIGURED YOU WOULD ASK SO I DID A LITTLE HOMEWORK. I had to go toa source i believe is the best for me,
" How does this time compare with the Biblical chronology? In Genesis 10 the notice is given that the first building activity after the flood is that of Nimrod, the beginning of whose kingdom was Babel, Erech, and Accad, all of them in the land of Shinar (Gen 10:10). When did Nimrod come upon the scene? His genealogical descent is that of Noah, Ham, Cush, Nimrod (Gen. 10:1, 6, 8). The Bible offers no timetable for this side of the family tree, but it does offer precise information regarding the genealogical statements of the Bible, it might be noted that very often two branches of the tree are offered. One is that of the descendants leading eventually to Christ and about which precise timetables are given, as we have seen. The second is the genealogical descent of that side of the family which turned away from God. It can be shown that the timetable of these two lines run roughly parallel.
It may be assumed that Ham and Shem were contemporaries (they obviously were, inasmuch as they were brothers), that Arpachshad and Cush were nearly contemporaries, and that Shelah and Nimrod were probably men of the same period of history.
After this in of no use to you to determine the downline. But you an use it to match up with archaeology.
Thus, if Shelahs date is known, it may be surmised that Nimrods was close to the same date.
Shelahs date by Biblical reckoning was 4050 B.C. to 3617 B.C. Nimrod must have lived about this time. Thus, the Bible suggests a date of about 3900 B.C. to 3617 B.C. for the founding of the great cities of the Mesopotamia Valley. The date suggested by the evidence of archaeology (3700-3500 B.C.) accords very well with the Biblical statement. Got to get my zzz, later.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Great, you believe his reply?
Or,
I guess you just do not know how to comprehend scripture.
Or
you will just have to live with your own preconceived ideas.
Or
It is a difficult thing to be told something you did not know when you think you know it all.
Or
"To argue with a man who has renounced his reason is like giving medicine to the dead."
Sonic247
Well-Known Member
I didn't look up the verse but I think that must be where it refers to Cain being "of that wicked one": this is a reference to Satan. You can see this concept is used when Jesus is rebuking the Pharisees and says "you are of your father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do" he goes on to say how Satan was a liar and murderer- the sin of Cain. Hope that helped.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Oh I comprehend scripture very well. What I do not comprehend is someone who inserts their own "interpretations" into the story of Genesis.
Cain was not a Kenite, this is an insertion by you and is not scriptural.
Genesis 15:18-21 (New International Version)
18 On that day the LORD made a covenant with Abram and said, "To your descendants I give this land, from the river [a] of Egypt to the great river, the Euphrates- 19 the land of the Kenites, Kenizzites, Kadmonites, 20 Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaites, 21 Amorites, Canaanites, Girga****es and Jebusites."
Judges 1:16 (New International Version)
16 The descendants of Moses' father-in-law, the Kenite, went up from the City of Palms [a] with the men of Judah to live among the people of the Desert of Judah in the Negev near Arad.
Exodus 2:21 (New International Version)
21 Moses agreed to stay with the man, who gave his daughter Zipporah to Moses in marriage.
1 Samuel 15:6 (New International Version)
6 Then he said to the Kenites, "Go away, leave the Amalekites so that I do not destroy you along with them; for you showed kindness to all the Israelites when they came up out of Egypt." So the Kenites moved away from the Amalekites.
You fail in the comprehension of your own scriptures. You should try reading the Bible itself, rather than following the teachings of a man.
thewindblows
Member
Regarding Cains entrance into the world, you might want to check out the word that has shown me that Cain was not of Adam's seed. The word is "gotten". Do research on that word and you will find Cain could not have been of Adam's seed, also Eve's lord became satan after she had went against God's word, she also added her own word which fulfilled itself the word "touch it".
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