Cold-Stone said:
Michael,
If -just for the sake of argument, you were to see via textual analysis, that those homosexual concepts via those verses were in error and actually the verses condemn the act itself, it I do this for you, will you then adopt the view that homosexual is wrong?
Let's not jump ahead of ourselves here. If the christian church has been wrong on this concept for 2000 years, and some Bishop Spong and other perverts just got smarter then all the rest. The arrogance is thick in here.
I will show you the errors of your ways with these verses since this is my specialty ONLY if you agree that you will then (hypothetically,,,if) adopt the moral implications via the Bible if I'm right (along with every church father in history).
Again, if you don't agree to change, what's the point? It's simply air upon the buttocks of a stubborn ***admin edit***.
Cold-Stone Advantage
Cold-stone,
From what I understand from your post, you are, if I understand correctly, asking me to:-
a) accept that 'those' homosexual concepts via those verses were in error and actually the verses condemn the act itself, it I do this for you, will you
then adopt the view that homosexual is wrong
b) accept that If the christian church has been wrong on this concept for 2000 years, and some Bishop Spong and other perverts just got smarter then all the rest. The arrogance is thick in here.
c) accept that you will show me the errors of my ways with these verses since this is your specialty ONLY if you agree that I will then (hypothetically,,,if) adopt the moral implications via the Bible if you are right (along with every church father in history).
This seems to be able to be reduced to:-
A) The Bible is written incorrectly - and you and you alone know the true verses of the Bible.
B)Christianity in it's beliefs is hogwash, and we have been duped into believing all this hogwash for 2000 years and 'Some Bishop Spong and other perverts just got smarter than the rest?@!&!!!
c) I am to accept your offer conditional, on the following premise :- if you give me the benefit of your secret knowlege that all Christians have been completely lost for the last 2000 years, then I must promise to adopt the moral implications via the Bible (Which I think you are implying you are the only person to have understood).
I hope you won't be upset if I decline your very kind and enlightening offer. I would never promise to something which I have to accept on trust, offered to me by one man - against all the precepts of Christianity for the last 2000 years. Come on; who on Earth do you think would be prepared to accept such a condition ?
Basically, as far as I can understand, you claim to have some revised version of the Bible, which changes the meaning of what you would have it to change to suit your own needs.
You seem to further suggest that you are prepared to share this with me alone - oh How I am honoured!
May I make a suggestion ? :- Why do you not take your wonderful revelations straight to the Pope at the Vatican ? - I think he would be interested to know that he has misunderstodd the bible..................:jam: :help: :shout