Why I don't 'support our troops' (and why no religious person should)

[Amill]

The funny thing about people who don't support troops are they are usually the ones who aren't in the middle of the war.

Therefore less likely to be emotionally involved, allowing them to analyze the situation rationally?

Its all too easy to criticise soldiers, but too hard to try and put yourself in their shoes because lets face it, how many of us here actually know whats its like on the streets of Baghdad or Kabul?

Then we shouldn't ever criticize anyone for anything, because no 2 people have the same experiences.

 

[blackout]

Most people are unappreciated.
At least generally unappreciated by others.

Big deal.

You do what you do in life,
because it's what YOU feel inspired to do,
or because it's what you feel you have to,
or need to do personally.
Not because you want other people
to "appreciate" you, or what you do.

Some people appreciate some things
Other people appreciate other things.

 

[dust1n]

The funny thing about people who don't support troops are they are usually the ones who aren't in the middle of the war.

Its all too easy to criticise soldiers, but too hard to try and put yourself in their shoes because lets face it, how many of us here actually know whats its like on the streets of Baghdad or Kabul?

A popular saying in Australia: Support our troops or stand in front of them. Its simple, not many people suppport the war, but we will support the bravery of our soldiers for dealing with the horrors our government has sent them into.

Sorry, that's ******* stupid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_veterans_against_the_war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_Veterans_Against_the_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_for_Peace


Every war protest I've been to, we worked directly with Veterans for Peace. We were an Anarchist-Communist Collective, and they were more than happy to be working wtih us.

 

[darkendless]

Sorry, that's ******* stupid.

Iraq Veterans Against the War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Vietnam Veterans Against the War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Veterans for Peace - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Every war protest I've been to, we worked directly with Veterans for Peace. We were an Anarchist-Communist Collective, and they were more than happy to be working wtih us.

Read my post again, you completely missed the point.

When did i say i support war? I support the soldiers for the **** they have to put up with for a bunch of ingrates who call them murders and animals. Like i said, it should be these people standing in front of the soldiers.

Support the men, not the war they're forced to fight.

 

[Walkntune]

Read my post again, you completely missed the point.

When did i say i support war? I support the soldiers for the **** they have to put up with for a bunch of ingrates who call them murders and animals. Like i said, it should be these people standing in front of the soldiers.

Support the men, not the war they're forced to fight.

I agree. I believe the ones who are crying about the war would be the same ones crying when we have to fight the war on our own land but instead of the military it would have to be with our fire and police departments because we let our momentum turn into resistance.

 

[dust1n]

Read my post again, you completely missed the point.

When did i say i support war? I support the soldiers for the **** they have to put up with for a bunch of ingrates who call them murders and animals. Like i said, it should be these people standing in front of the soldiers.

Support the men, not the war they're forced to fight.

Sorry, didn't mean to snap.

I am a hard determinist, and to that regard I can sympathize over a soldiers, but no solider in this war was physically forced to do. I can not support that decision, regardless how good the intentions war, it was a bad choice.

 

[dust1n]

I agree. I believe the ones who are crying about the war would be the same ones crying when we have to fight the war on our own land but instead of the military it would have to be with our fire and police departments because we let our momentum turn into resistance.

They are not comparable, and your vague generalizations do nothing but cloud the issue.

 

[blackout]

Read my post again, you completely missed the point.

When did i say i support war? I support the soldiers for the **** they have to put up with for a bunch of ingrates who call them murders and animals. Like i said, it should be these people standing in front of the soldiers.

Support the men, not the war they're forced to fight.

Military volunteers have not been forced to fight. just saying.

I always feel badly for people who are unfairly maligned.
Soldiers are no different.
If you don't want to involve yourself in war,
you can start by shutting up about it.
Let the people who want to fight, fight.
Go do what you are called to do.

 

[darkendless]

Military volunteers have not been forced to fight. just saying.

I always feel badly for people who are unfairly maligned.
Soldiers are no different.
If you don't want to involve yourself in war,
you can start by shutting up about it.
Let the people who want to fight, fight.
Go do what you are called to do.

Like i said at the start of the thread, sometimes its hard for people to find work so they turn to the military for support. Then, fighting for their country to live an honest life they cop **** from all angles for the governments choice to send them.

Its something i can't understand.

 

[Beaudreaux]

If another Hitler came to power and armed forces came to our shores to kill or enslave us, what do you suppose the moral thing to do would be?

Still waiting for an answer to this question. It was not rhetorical.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Most people are unappreciated.
At least generally unappreciated by others.

Big deal.

You do what you do in life,
because it's what YOU feel inspired to do,
or because it's what you feel you have to,
or need to do personally.
Not because you want other people
to "appreciate" you, or what you do.

Some people appreciate some things
Other people appreciate other things.

:bow::clap:bow:

 

[dust1n]

Still waiting for an answer to this question. It was not rhetorical.

I'm pretty sure the question is entirely relevant, as this is not 1942, and there is no immediate threat on our shore.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Read my post again, you completely missed the point.

When did i say i support war? I support the soldiers for the **** they have to put up with for a bunch of ingrates who call them murders and animals. Like i said, it should be these people standing in front of the soldiers.

Support the men, not the war they're forced to fight.

Please spend a day thinking about this dust1n, Seriously. The service men and women are not the bad guys.

 

[dust1n]

Please spend a day thinking about this dust1n, Seriously. The service men and women are not the bad guys.

I did not assume, as individuals, that they were. I just don't support them.

 

[Reverend Rick]

I did not assume, as individuals, that they were. I just don't support them.

All I ask is that you think about it a little more. Use your intellect instead of emotion for a day. Sleep on it, and if you feel the same way tomorrow, I can respect that.

 

[Beaudreaux]

I'm pretty sure the question is entirely relevant, as this is not 1942, and there is no immediate threat on our shore.

As you point out, wars happen all the time. If they did not, what would be the point of this thread? In every war, someone attacks first. As a country attacked by an aggressor, what is the moral thing to do?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I'm pretty sure the question is entirely relevant, as this is not 1942, and there is no immediate threat on our shore.

Wasn't there a car bomb in New York City this weekend?

 

[dust1n]

All I ask is that you think about it a little more. Use your intellect instead of emotion for a day. Sleep on it, and if you feel the same way tomorrow, I can respect that.

And I suppose that allowing my intellect to take control would be to succumb to your appeal to emotion?

 

[dust1n]

Wasn't there a car bomb in New York City this weekend?

Oh yeah.. now that I think about it.. that's exactly like Pearl Harbor.

 

[dust1n]

As you point out, wars happen all the time. If they did not, what would be the point of this thread? In every war, someone attacks first. As a country attacked by an aggressor, what is the moral thing to do?

I guess the moral thing to do would bomb a country where the population is more than half of kids and pretend like I've accomplished some sense of justice.