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Featured Why I CANNOT Believe in The Resurrection

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SeekingAllTruth, Apr 25, 2021.

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  1. F1fan

    F1fan Active Member

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    It's been a while. But the recent clips I've seen were pretty bad.
     
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    I think there was probably one or a number of people who the Jesus story was based on. I think the story of a person who was exposed to Buddhism is a good possibility. There's no doubt that someone came up with the new ideas. We can't ignore the many decades after the supposed death of Jesus that the stories developed, and during a time when embellishment was common.
     
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    You are acting as if that were the case.
     
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    I know. But there is a lot of context missing. Rodney was on some powerful drugs. He was a large individual and was combative. The videos start part way through the event so full context is missing. It is easy to see only part of a fight and blame the wrong party.
     
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    Personally I think that it was Elvis.
     
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    Jesus neither wrote the 4 Gospels nor approved them, so who declared them as a standard , please. Right?
    Regards
     
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    No one is saying Jesus wrote anything?
     
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    Hopefully that is the case. Since he didn't. Please do not rely on an Equivocation fallacy if you respond to this.
     
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    Now that's some complicated theology.
     
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    But much more rewarding. I remember the good old days when Elvis died and the tabloids had regular reports about him. Aaah good times, good times.
     
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    It is for this 4 Gospels cannot do not qualify to be standard of any sorts.
    Right?

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  12. ElishaElijah

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    When a person repents and receives the Gospel, God gives that person the Holy Spirit and they are born again and have passed from death to life. This is the guarantee or proof that the Bible is true. The other proof is at the judgement where unbelievers who rejected the truth will be judged and go to hell for eternity while believers receive their inheritance of new glorified bodies and enjoy the presence of God for eternity in Heaven.
     
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    These are theological concepts, none have even been shown to be true. Only people who are part of your religious framework will treat these ideas as true. These are irrelevant to those of other religions and objective thinkers.


    Except it's not true, and there's no actual guarantee. These are just ideas religious people are told.


    Oddly this threat is only taken seriously by believers, and they think they're going to heaven. So no one ever goes to hell.

    That you believe you theology is not evidence or fact. It only tells us what you believe. It doesn't explain how it is rational.
     
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    I wasn’t a believer and when I repented and believed the Gospel, God did give me the Holy Spirit just like Jesus said as written in the Bible. This happens to every person when they receive Jesus Christ. Doesn’t matter where you come from in life, this is for everyone.
     
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    Your subjective experience and beliefs are irrelevant. Knock yourself out with your beliefs, we don't care. If you are going to insist some idea is true you need to demonstrate it is true using facts and a coherent, objective argument.
     
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    Believe what you wish, I’m just telling you my experience, what God did for me and countless others. How I know I have eternal life and found the Truth. The Holy Spirit bears witness to me that I have eternal life.
     
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    No, that is merely confirmation bias at best. It is not a proper test. And it is refuted by the incredibly different interpretations of the Bible of people claiming to be "saved".

    I asked you before if you had a legitimate test for your beliefs and the answer still appears to be "no".
     
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    Once again, the mere fact that others claiming the same have different beliefs from you refutes your claim. It is not a valid test.
     
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    Seems like you need something brother.
     
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    Why? Because I can see that your supposed test is not valid? Have you looked into why the resurrection story is likely fake?
     
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