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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Evangelicalhumanist, Jan 1, 2021.

  1. Audie

    Audie Veteran Member

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    Never mind, I know a nothingburger when I see it.

    (Liie not the least trace of evidence for it )
     
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  3. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Yet not a single word that you wrote provides a scintella of evidence that Baha'u'llah actually represented a real god. You merely make the case that, if there were a real god, it is possible that Baha'u'llah represented him. To which I reply that it is equally likely that a real representative of god was the Easter Bunny. Not more likely, not, just equally likely, both based on precisely the same lack of evidence.

    And so while you may decide that you've accepted one, not any others, I have decided that I can accept none. That's all there is to it.
     
  4. Audie

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    NONONO! " whatevs "
     
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    There is evidence but such a thing can never be proven, since God cannot ever be proven to exist, and that is why some faith is necessary to believe in God or a Messenger. However, it should be a reason-based faith, a faith based upon the evidence the Messenger presented to back His claim, not a blind faith.
    No, that is not the case I am making. What I am saying is that I believe there is a real God and that Baha'u'llah was His Representative for this age.
    I believe there have been many other Messengers of God who were also Representatives of God, but aside from their spiritual teachings, what they revealed is not pertinent to this age in history.
     
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    Sorry, I will try to remember that.
     
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    To me Jesus did Not use ' blind faith ' (credulity) because Jesus used logical reasoning on the old Hebrew Scriptures as a basis for his teachings.
    Sometimes it is said that which can't be proven does Not have to mean unprovable, impossible, but rather just Not known by current knowledge of law or science.
     
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    Indeed, that reasoning applies to both God and the spiritual world (heaven).
    Not known by current knowledge of law or science does not mean does not exist.

    How many solar systems are there that we know of?

    So far, astronomers have found more than 500 solar systems and are discovering new ones every year. Given how many they have found in our own neighborhood of the Milky Way galaxy, scientists estimate that there may be tens of billions of solar systems in our galaxy, perhaps even as many as 100 billion.

    How many solar systems are in our galaxy? - NASA Space Place


    As to thy question concerning the worlds of God. Know thou of a truth that the worlds of God are countless in their number, and infinite in their range. None can reckon or comprehend them except God, the All-Knowing, the All-Wise.” Gleanings, pp. 151-152

    “Verily I say, the creation of God embraceth worlds besides this world, and creatures apart from these creatures. In each of these worlds He hath ordained things which none can search except Himself, the All-Searching, the All-Wise.” Gleanings, pp. 152-153
     
  9. Audie

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    He supposedly went about doing miracles.
    That ain't logic.

    It's been pure blind faith ever since.
     
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    And it is also not proof. Miracles are proof only to those who witnessed them, although many people who read about them believe they are proof.

    “Recollect that Christ, solitary and alone, without a helper or protector, without armies and legions, and under the greatest oppression, uplifted the standard of God before all the people of the world, and withstood them, and finally conquered all, although outwardly He was crucified. Now this is a veritable miracle which can never be denied. There is no need of any other proof of the truth of Christ…” Some Answered Questions, p. 101
     
  11. Audie

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    Well obviously. In the event, there were no miracles.
     
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    Nobody really knows.
     
  13. Audie

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    True.

    But the daemons-into- pigs thing is
    ridiculous.

    When there's no evidence, try the smell
    test.
     
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    Seems you don't like God because you think he's a jerk. I will remind you that we as humans can only see things through our limited animal persective.
     
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  15. Evangelicalhumanist

    Evangelicalhumanist "Truth" isn't a thing...
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    Then you've misread me. I don't dislike God -- I can't possibly, since I don't believe in any such thing. I don't hate anybody I don't know anything about.

    What you might have read from what I wrote, if you had read it, is that the reason for my disbelief is that the god that was presented to me simply does not reconcile with the reality around me. Very simple, really.
     
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  16. Audie

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    You 100 % don't get it.

    You think "god" is, like, real.

    An atheist does not.

    This bible-god is just a character in a semi
    historical NOVEL.

    As a character, he is way worse than a jerk.
    More like a psycho.
     
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    The earth is a book that does not lie.
     
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    Then maybe you are looking at the wrong God.
     
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    The Bible is not historical at all. It is a book of esoterica and parables. Only a fool would take any of it literally. Or think that is supposed to be taken literally.
     
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    An awful lot of fools out there.
    And in here.
     
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