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Featured Why Does Michael Lead Angels?

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Maximilian, Feb 24, 2019.

  1. Desert Snake

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    Yeshua is Jesus's name in the Aramaic Bible. I Don't personally believe that that is from Yoheshua, as many theorize, I believe that Yeshua is the same name as Jesus, Yeshu, Yesu, Isho, and other similar variations.
     
  2. Faithofchristian

    Faithofchristian Well-Known Member

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    Actually Jude 14 reads in all these different languages

    Stephens 1550 Textus Receptus
    proefhteusen de kai toutoiV ebdomoV apo adam enwc legwn idou hlqen kurioV en muriasin agiaiV autou

    Scrivener 1894 Textus Receptus
    proefhteusen de kai toutoiV ebdomoV apo adam enwc legwn idou hlqen kurioV en muriasin agiaiV autou


    Byzantine Majority
    proefhteusen de kai toutoiV ebdomoV apo adam enwc legwn idou hlqen kurioV en agiaiV muriasinautou


    Alexandrian
    proefhteusen de kai toutoiV ebdomoV apo adam enwc legwn idou hlqen kurioV en agiaiV muriasinautou


    Hort and Westcott
    eprofhteusen de kai toutoiV ebdomoV apo adam enwc legwn idou hlqen kurioV en agiaiV muriasin autou


    Latin Vulgate
    1:14 prophetavit autem et his septimus ab Adam Enoc dicens ecce venit Dominus in sanctis milibus suis


    King James Version
    1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints"



    So as you can see no matter what language Jude 14 is in, it's all saying the same thing as in the 1611 king James version of the bible.
     
  3. Maximilian

    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    It appears you missed the thrust of my rejoinder. Let's go about this another way: Whom did Enoch prophesy against as per Jude 14?
     
  4. Faithofchristian

    Faithofchristian Well-Known Member

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    Well it's evidence if you had read
    Jude 14-15
    That in Jude 15, "To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him"

    Notice the last Sentence
    ( which ungodly sinners have spoken against him)

    You do know this Prophecy that was given a little over 2000 yrs ago, is being fulfilled as we speak, How many people have you heard of that have spoken against God and Christ Jesus either in making fun or ridiculing,
    So this Prophecy goes to those that are doing such things or have done such things.

    I guess that answers your question
     
  5. 74x12

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    Michael is a powerful angel. But Jesus is said to be specifically raised above all angels. Jesus is head of all angels. There are principalities of angels apparently. Michael is a Prince according to the Bible. But he's not King of kings and Lord of lords. Michael only kicks Satan out of heaven with the help of the blood of Jesus. As we read the the saints overcome by the blood. So the accuser of the brethren finds no place in heaven to accuse them anymore. This gives Michael and his angels legal authority to go to war with and defeat Satan.

    Jehovah's witnesses claim that Michael 's name prove he is Jesus because Michael means "who is like God" but it's obviously a rhetorical question "who is like God?" Meant to give God glory because no one is like God. In fact the scripture makes it clear that no angel is like God in Psalm 89:6. Here they ask the rhetorical question of who among the angels is like God?
     
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