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Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Maximilian, Feb 24, 2019.

  1. wizanda

    wizanda One Accepts All Religious Texts
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    Since our Bible is a copy of Esword, with resource materials, thus it has all that stuff stated; if you need us to pinpoint data, please ask.

    Edited the post btw, as it came across personally harsh, which wasn't my intent. :oops:

    In my opinion.
    :innocent:
     
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  2. Maximilian

    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    Thank you for sharing that :)

    So:

    1. Who is Michael?
    2. Who are his angels?
    3. Why did he lead the war against Satan instead of Christ?
    4. Are there two separate groups of loyal angels, one belonging to Christ and another to Michael?
     
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    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    How refreshing it is to be in the company of another who loves the truth so very, very much! :D
     
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  4. Maximilian

    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    Since you're not a fan of complexities does this mean you don't subscribe to the Athanasian Creed?
     
  5. Maximilian

    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    Why would you think that?
     
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    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    Mainstream Christianity? What's more mainstream that Christ's own teachings?
     
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    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    Where? Where does it say the things you claim about Jesus, Michael and Jehovah God?
     
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    H4317
    מִיכָאֵל
    mı̂ykâ'êl
    me-kaw-ale'
    From H4310 and (the prefixed derivation from) H3588 and H410; who (is) like God?; Mikael, the name of an archangel and of nine Israelites: - Michael.
    Total KJV occurrences: 13
    H3091
    יְהוֹשֻׁעַ יְהוֹשׁוּעַ
    yehôshûa‛ yehôshûa‛
    yeh-ho-shoo'-ah, yeh-ho-shoo'-ah
    From H3068 and H3467; Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (that is, Joshua), the Jewish leader: - Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare H1954, H3442.
    Total KJV occurrences: 218
    H3068
    יְהֹוָה
    yehôvâh
    yeh-ho-vaw'
    From H1961; (the) self Existent or eternal; Jehovah, Jewish national name of God: - Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069.
    Total KJV occurrences: 6521

    These are Strongs from Esword.

    Lord (Yah) is its own independent word.

    H3050
    יָהּ
    yâhh
    yaw
    Contracted for H3068, and meaning the same; Jah, the sacred name: - Jah, the Lord, most vehement. Cp. names in “-iah,” “-jah.”
    Total KJV occurrences: 49

    In Esword's & my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    Because Michael being a Arch Angel leads the angels..
    Like a General leads his army.

    Jesus doesn't come with angels, But Jesus sends his Angels into battle.

    No more than a king or President sends their General into battle with their army
     
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    (before anything was created, Jesus was created in heaven)
    Who was born by Mary, then? Looks to me like myth stories
     
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    Maximilian Energetic proclaimer of Jehovah God's Kingdom.

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    How so?
     
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    he leads God's other angels.



    because it is a spiritual = mental war between service to all(god) as self and service to self.


    Christ is all and in all. The 144000 are christs
     
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    I'm angry right now, so perhaps should not speak. However, some seem to use their beliefs as a weapon of destruction and torment, and I want no part of that. Shame on you, shame.

    Our beliefs should draw us and be used by us to more fully understand and obey our Creator. We should use our beliefs in love and to comfort others full stop.
     
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    Are you addressing me or is this directed at someone else?
     
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    I am still stuck on the idea of Jesus being created. If the Word was there with the Father at the beginning of all things, doesn't that imply that both the Word and The Father are both eternal beings with no beginning or end? Yes Jesus had a physical beginning when He was born of Mary but He existed as the Word from all eternity.
     
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    I am still unsure about the idea of Jesus being created. If the Word was with the Father at the beginning of all things doesn't that imply that both the Father and the Word are eternal beings with no beginning or end? Why does the Word need to be created?
     
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    Why?
     
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