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Featured Why Does God Hate Sex?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Skwim, Aug 12, 2018.

  1. Brickjectivity

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    It is both a chemical dependency and a threadbare means of cheating death. That doesn't mean God would hate it necessarily, but only an addict views it as something special. The trouble is that addicts control most of the information about it and the government. They even control this web site (probably). So are you and addict or a true independent voice? Thought so.
     
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    Nope.

    But calling something an abomination, a sin great enough to keep one out of heaven, and worthy of killing is not moderation.

    Argumentum ad populum and a straw man.

    Did I say all adultery isn't bad?


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    A better question might be -- why do people love sex more than God such that they are willing to break all commandments in order to have it?
     
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    ???

    So, when you kiss pigs and get swine flu, it's God's fault.

    Strange way of looking at things.

    Or if you have sex with animals and contract diseases... it's God's fault?

    Strange logic.
     
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    God does not have a "problem" with sex in its proper context, which is marriage.
    Humans want to take sex out of its proper context, which is like pouring gasoline all over the driveway and then lighting a match, instead of putting the gasoline where it belongs, in the gas tank.

    An Omniscient God knows more than any human, so an Omniscient God knows the proper use of the sex instinct, which is in marriage. :rolleyes:
     
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    But without tax, how do you have hospitals free for all, schools free for all, good roads, police, army, fire...you get my drift.
     
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    Most of my friends are not married; in long time relationships, most with children but not married. Good job they are not religious then.
     
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    the way Christians use to do it (and many still do). The rich create hospitals and churches taught children.

    PS. Jesus wasn't against taxes either. He just wasn't a socialist. He was a manifestation of compassion.
     
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    Don't you know, everything is God's fault, because God is Omnipotent?
    Shame on you Ken for not knowing this.... :rolleyes:

    Don't you know, humans never make any mistakes...
    Problem is, humans are fallible and God is Infallible, kind of hard to get around that one and call yourself logical... :rolleyes:

    The other problem is that humans are not Omniscient so humans cannot know more than an Omniscient God... :rolleyes:

    The funniest thing is that atheists pride themselves in being logical but they do not understand the most basic logic. :D
     
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    A lot of people don't buy into the Ten Commandments, plus, a lot of people don't believe in god, particularly the Christian god. And it's pretty reasonable that those Christians who do love god, but don't go along with his hatred of sex, indulge themselves in it. :shrug:

    I know if I loved god, but found some of his positions to be asinine, that I'd ignore them. Wouldn't you?

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    According to my religion, if they are not a Baha'i they are not subject to Baha'i Laws.
    I cannot say how other religions handle that...
    Atheists do not believe God exists so why would they follow God's Laws?
     
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    Religious schools and hospitals come with too much baggage

    Google Savita Halappanavar for problems with Catholic health care
    You just have to look a US private schools teaching religion instead of science
     
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    Then again, some believe don't believe man has gone to the moon. They think it is a Hollywood production.
     
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    Now we are getting into something other than whether Jesus is a socialist.

    Again, yes, taxes are necessary. Jesus didn't have a problem with taxes. Basically, I don't either. It is when it goes beyond the scope of what it was meant for that I have a problem especially when socialism, in its purest form, is enacted.

    There is a balance between "helping the poor" and "If a man does not work, he should not eat". It differentiates free-loaders from a real-life situation.
     
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    :) then there are those who acknowledge that public schools comes with too much baggage too. I guess it just depends on what kind of baggage you want. :)
     
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    You are absolutely right about that, many or maybe even most unmarried religious people indulge themselves in sex out of wedlock, but if they do that they are breaking the Laws of their religion and I consider that hypocrisy.
    If they really loved God they would not break God's Laws.
    No, never, because that would make me a hypocrite.
    I would also be failing in my duty towards God because I would be failing to observe the second of the Twin Duties, which is to "observe every ordinance of Him Who is the Desire of the world." Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 330-331
     
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    And no one is arguing any differently. The whole point of the thread is to find out why god hates sex outside the context of the missionary position within marriage.

    As *sigh* I said in my OP

    According to the Bible god doesn't like prostitutes, homosexuality, bestiality, consensual adultery (all adultery is bad), marrying a divorced woman, premarital sex, lust, sensuality, semen, etc. etc..​


    Yup. and the question is, why has god constructed this "proper context" in the first place? Why does he hate these other forms of sexual expression? Why does he find semen so disgusting that if a man emits it he will be unclean until evening?

    Leviticus 15:16-18
    “If a man has an emission of semen, he shall bathe his whole body in water and be unclean until the evening.
    Why is sensuality so bad?

    Galatians 5:19-21
    Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these.
    What is so wrong with bestiality that' it's worthy of death?

    Exodus 22:19
    “Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.
    Why is looking at someone with lust, adultery?

    Matthew 5:28
    But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart.​

    Or divorcing one's wife, except for sexual immorality, and marrying another, adultery?

    Matthew 19:9
    And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

    I'm not looking for answers to these questions, and probably wouldn't read them anyway. I'm merely putting them out here for your consideration of god's unreasonable hatred of sex related activities.

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    As do I, which is why I find those Christian denominations that now accept homosexuality, as being hypocritical.

    And to each his own.

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    I think you are mixing socialism with communism/Marxism, there is a big difference.
     
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    What baggage do public schools come with?
     
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