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Featured Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by wizanda, Nov 27, 2019.

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  1. wizanda

    wizanda One Accepts All Religious Texts
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    I'm sorry to have come across like I was mocking in anyway, and it wasn't intended...

    Must admit it was a return pass, as my site link is on every post I make, so did think you'd have looked at it; thus did feel insulted, and maybe that was felt in the reply, as spent years coding it.
    Until we've tried explaining to Christians where the errors are in John, Paul, and Simon, and what happens when we get the reactions from that; we should not start assuming methods for putting it forward on a global scale.

    We need literally a film crew, and people to produce it as an advanced documentary explaining the errors, me doing videos might happen; yet not for me saying, "hey I'm Christ please listen that you all are already following the Anti-Christ's teachings, and are not actually smart enough to know Judgement Day is Soon."
    Because of the numerous errors showing the level of wisdom.

    Even the idea someone could put Christian next to their name, instantly disqualifies them from being angelic, as it shows a complete lack of comprehension of the Tanakh.

    I didn't have to read the Bible to know that, I had children's copies of the Bible, and would stop at the New Testament as I knew it was corrupted at 4-5 years old.
    There isn't averting prophecy... There is only explaining it is happening, and why.

    There would be no point Yeshua setting a Snare in Time, if there were no need to catch out the wicked - "We've got to fulfil the book". :musicalnote:



    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    How do you know I'm not an Angel in training?

    Also, if I'm an Angel rather than an Arch Angel I may be unaware of my Angelic nature?

    Maybe my job in the Angelic Civil Service requires me to think and behave like a human being?

    Maybe some things are above my "pay-grade" such as certain elements of knowledge?

    Maybe I have Butterfly to guide me, as I lack Angelic wisdom - indeed maybe Butterfly is the part of me who has Angelic knowledge??? Maybe you have your wisdom and I have Butterfly instead?

    Maybe i'm lower than you so don't have your level of knowledge?

    Maybe you and I are both plain-clothed Angels, rather than Angels wearing white with wings and halos etc.?

    If you tentatively recognise me as an Angel I will tentatively recognise you as an Arch Angel, by changing my vote to "Maybe" :)

    I think you could very well be an Angel of some sort but I also think you may have some mistaken ideas about things

    OK, well if that's what you think then at least that's a measurable and not impossible goal

    Do you imagine a fly-on-the-wall type thing, or an exploration of Oneness?

    Have you looked into any of this at all?

    You'd need people to work on it in post-production too though, which I imagine would be expensive

    Would you personally produce such a documentary? And use your own money to finance it?

    Also, distribution would be an issue... I can't imagine such a thing being shown in cinemas... perhaps you'd have to put it on Youtube, even though you're averse to this it may be your only real option? :cool:

    You don't have to say "not smart enough", it's not about intelligence, it's about knowledge

    If I believed I could save the Earth from armageddon I'd be much less laid back than you are...
     
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    I have changed my vote from “No” to “Yes”

    Because I think that like me, you’re Angelic

    But I believe you’re a messenger, rather than a Messiah

    And no, I don’t think you’re Christ

    But I’m willing to suspend disbelief and accept you as an Angel – maybe even an Arch Angel

    I think you have some mistaken beliefs but that your world view largely aligns with the truth

    I believe that I too am an Angel and that I’m your handler with a direct line to the higher-ups, that I’m here to assist you and tell you what’s what about various things

    Believe me or don't believe me - I know what's what ;)
     
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  4. wizanda

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    Start with basics in Mastering the Force:

    Children compete, adults relate, grandparents raise.

    Look at the way we both put conversation forward...

    If we want to become more angelic, learn the steps of social interaction; then when we start truly relating, instead of competing, we then study what someone is meaning more.

    The Steps of Ascension explained in the 13 Commandments have not been rewritten, even though in-between then and now, have read numerous other religious texts - they still fit exactly with concepts I know exist in the afterlife, and in many of the world's religions.
    We're all angels in training; you need to study religion more, like understand Dharmic concepts, understand the Middle Line of Buddhism; then when we see 0neness - we know we're a Divine Being manifest in a human experience.
    Once Messiahship has been established on earth, I fulfil prophecies in everyone's texts globally, and people need to catch up with the data - that is all.

    Imagine the Queen of England struggling to get any film produced, same applies here - Worrying about small print of things, where there are professionals is amateurish...

    It would be like the Queen using her garden-shed to do YouTube videos with a cheap cam, and mic, singing Bohemian Rhapsody out of key. :p
    Eddi the Egg video is one of ours, here is another:



    Consciousness is Oneness, it isn't over there, so all these people are part of the One explaining to ourselves already.

    There does need to be a correlative video explaining the dynamics of Oneness, like how we all seek it, and Heaven is it...

    Yet again, this will only be shown by Oneness, a single video doesn't prove that on its own.

    What I want videos for, is to explain to humanity where the Anti-Christ is within the text; once we've executed it in a legal court battle.
    I've spent the last 18 years being suicidal; I've sort of come to terms with death.

    People do not listen properly over 16 years; if they did, I'd not need to repeat myself already.
    I accept it is possible if your connected to Source it can do such things, and appreciate the conversation as it creates discussion to show everyone.

    Handler is a nice way of the Source saying nurturing, which is like a Farmer in Unconditional Love (11D), yet not a Shepherd in Wisdom (12D); Tendering ideas is good, guiding a Shepherd can lead us in circles.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    But how are you going to make this happen? How are you going to establish it?

    There have been many, many failed attempts by people to establish themselves as Messiahs and each of them would have felt as certain about it as you feel about your Messiahship

    Sounds like a very tall order to me

    Basically: Do you have any actual plans?

    If you do, could you please share them?

    I'd be interested to know :)

    But what if in order to become Queen she needed to make cheap garden-shed YouTube videos?

    She was born into her position, you're going to have to work to get yours - I think that's a poor analogy

    Sure, when people see you're an Arch Angel they will be media interest in you

    But you have to get there first, which I suggest would require garden-shed YouTube videos ;)

    I think you're putting the carriage before the horses, so to speak...

    Could you please elaborate on this? Who or what is the Anti-Christ? How does he/she fit into your account of reality?

    Indeed, do you believe in good and evil?
     
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    Been doing some thinking, about understanding you and your role more clearly

    Arch Angel = what type of being you are
    Messenger/Messiah = your job

    You were born an Arch Angel

    But you have to work at being recognised as a Messenger or a Messiah

    Once you are recognised as one you will have become one :)

    The higher-ups want you to do this

    But being an Arch Angel should help you with it
     
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    If this thread changed a few people's minds, it can continue to increase as miracles happen.
    Yes, explain it to people all day, and branch out as the scriptures say, at some point the Source will make it happen.

    In the mean time, I'm becoming wiser explaining it.
    If the Queen did that, she wouldn't be the Messiah who can shape reality.
    The Anti-Christ's teachings are that the Pharisees corrupted Yehoshua/Yeshua's name into 'jesus', hiding all the contexts in the Tanakh, and now the world follows this.
    There is only maths; the dimensions divide the issues...

    1D is evil, 10D is good.

    1D is about personal selfishness Vs following Oneness of Source.

    10D is about having no desires, so we serve the Source with all.

    At the point of 10D letting go of selfish desires, is a requirement for ascending to 11D Unconditional love.

    In my opinion.
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    And yet... if this did not occur ( assuming you're correct, of course ); then no one would experience the pleasure and reward of revelation.

    It **has** to be hidden in order for it to be revealed?
     
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    Zen & Dao are our way of thinking; like the Buddha nature keeps evolving - Sort of like a Zen processor, that learns from its own processes.
    The concept, and terminologies of the "Antichrist Revealed" is John, Paul, and Simon making up a boogeymonster.

    The reality from prophecy of where it is against Yehoshua ben Yoseph's teachings, is the creation of the false Roman Church in Zechariah 5, Habakkuk 2,etc.

    The problem as Isaiah 29:9-14 points out, is people are not wise enough to comprehend the testimony already there; thus the book is sealed, so they reject bits of it.

    The False Teachers (Zechariah 11:15-17, Dajjal , Armilus) over the flock are blind in one eye, where people have got confused over different language, and cultures; so have divided religion (Revelation 10:11), which needs understanding as a whole to see clearly.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    I still say it would take an actual angel to know one. That would be a logical approach to the matter.

    Until then....
     
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    Imagine you're a simple little butterfly who dreams of causing a hurricane

    All you can do is flap your wings and pray

    (and maybe get other butterflies to join in too)

    And hope that the actions you chose bring about the desired effect

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    The more fervently you flap your wings, the greater the effect!

    You've flapped your wings a fair bit on RF and that will have some effect

    But you really need to do so on other platforms too ;)

    The thing is though, it takes time, you have to be patient and it's impossible to tell what things you observe were caused by the effect...

    Butterfly says yes to the idea of you spreading your message on other platforms - I suggest you take what he says seriously

    I know you don't want to do YouTube but have you considered Twitter?

    I don't think you are flapping your wings as hard as you are capable of doing, and this will make things take much longer to happen, when it comes to your mission

    Yes, The Source may intervene and help you, with miracles

    But you have to do stuff for the Source to do stuff to help you, if you don't do anything it's not going to just "make it happen"

    The Source helps those who help themselves

    And I say this as one who has a direct line to The Source

    (In my dealings with you I am going to start calling Butterfly "The Source", so we're using the same lingo)

    But The Source isn't going to "make it happen"... that's up to you

    That's good to hear

    Come on now, we can all shape reality :)

    What is your opinion of Christianity?
     
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    Christianity was established in Antioch by Paul and Simon the stone (peter - Acts 11:25-26), who Yeshua called the 'stumbling stone' once (Matthew 16:18), because he would lead people astray (Matthew 16:23), teaching the ways of man instead of the ways of God - as his "statements" were Pharisaic (Matthew 16:16).

    Christianity is literally Antichrist's teachings, and the Ebionites with James the Just Head of the Church of Jerusalem, fought against Paulinism - on the grounds they said his brother came as a living sacrifice, which defiles Jewish Law.

    Basically Christianity is Simon the stumbling stone saying follow the Devil Paul; who turns King Yehoshua into 'jesus' the crucified man God.
    Thank you for using a 'Butterfly Effect' parable on me; it becomes contextually like a child saying to a parent not to do something, and the parent recognizes the teaching the child puts forward is at their own advanced level.

    Give me time, and will consider the implications of a video of me...

    We do have a Youtube channel, Twitter, etc, and there is a video of me making a mockery of the many people channelling Christ; especially when we search "I Am" Sananda.



    This video is counter productive to appealing to religiously minded on purpose; same as the name wizanda sounds more like a child's party wizard...

    It seems I've done this almost intentionally, so that only the gifted will ever see the Kingdom of Heaven.

    It sort of makes it like Heaven is for the X-Men, who admire the mysteries of life, as they're weird also; as some of the more darker forces don't always like us, as they've got to be too clinically right.

    In my opinion.
    :innocent:
     
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  13. Eddi

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    Fantastic, you come over well on video, not all people do

    But what's the deal with that weird noise you make?

    And what's the information you speak of?

    I think you should make a follow-up video

    Perhaps posting videos on RF would be an idea???

    And does this mean you're going to start using Twitter to promote yourself as a Messiah?

    BTW, what would you like people to call you? Zanda Christ?

    I think Zanda Christ is good

    ZX for short?

    Or are you going to just use "Wizanda"? (Wizanda Christ?)

    Basically, I think you should be something-Christ, if establishing yourself as a Messiah is your aim...

    Isn't it your job as a Messiah to make sure as many souls as possible see the Kingdom of Heaven?

    BTW, The Source is telling me that it's happy with your progress thus far but that it expects you to flap your wings harder

    Another thing... I've looked at your website - it doesn't seem to be proclaiming you as Messiah as much as it might...

    I suggest making your identity as a Messiah more prominent on it, indeed I think it needs to be redesigned - if its purpose is to convince people you're a Messiah then it doesn't seem to have been designed accordingly...

    I don't think your website is deigned according to its purpose, if its purpose is to convince people you're a Messiah, which is what I think its purpose should be :)

    You can then link to it from Twitter posts

    I hope you'll listen to my advice about your website, it does not come over as the website of a Messiah
     
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    It isn't meant to, it is for explaining the contradictions in the world's religions as prophesied globally, before the Great Battle of Armageddon (Revelation 16:15-16, Revelation 2-3).
    Zanda will do, as it is more sacred as a word in all the world's religions, then if we add any words to it.

    It is highly possible the Source is an advanced futuristic form of an evolving AMD Zen quantum processor.

    Zan therefore is the root of all Sound.
    The information I was speaking of in the video is on our website, and in the world's religious texts already; thus it was a parody, as people should have already studied the information.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    The spelling of the word for Messiah in Hebrew, can also mean the Destroyer; just like Skanda being son of Shiva, comes at the End of Time.

    It sounds lovely in a fairytale world that some people actually listen to religion in the world; yet I don't believe it, after 'Jews' rejected 'Yeshua', and 'Hindu's' reject 'Buddha'.

    'Those who praised the Lord' rejected 'Salvation', and 'those who were a body of understanding' reject 'Discernment'.

    This world is full of hypocrisy, and people almost end up going opposite to the teachings in the texts.

    Me explaining to people, please already have listened to the texts, doesn't need to have already happened, for people to connect to the Source within.

    Yeshua came to cut down the numbers who would be in the Messianic Age, by setting a morality IQ tests as a Snare (Isaiah 8:11-22).

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    Well, I think you should re-design it so that it publicises your claim to be a Messiah :D

    You could still keep all the other content on it, of course, but I think informing the world about your claim to be a Messiah should be its primary job

    Imagine if Jesus of Nazareth had a website - what would he put on it?

    Dude... if you're going to be a Messiah then I think that you'll need a website all about it - it would be your means to reaching as many people as possible

    Indeed I think you should pause your efforts until you've done just that

    The Source agrees with me that you should re-design your website :cool:

    Please, tell me more about how you expect End Times to play out...

    Will there be an apocalypse? If so, what happens after that? Do you believe in "rapture"? What exactly will your role be in the events of End Times?
     
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    It tells us in Revelation 16:15-16 before Armageddon, and Revelation 3:3 Christ is here incognito before the day, discussing with people in the Sky on the Clouds, and Lightning (Internet).
    The ideas of the Rapture are a Pauline invention; yet the wicked Ravenous Beings are removed in a Day.
    Educating, and helping people - if I can.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    More questions:

    So, if I understand correctly, your ministry is going to have its origins online but you won't become a world-famous public figure until the day Armageddon begins? Is that right???

    And what exactly will you be helping people with?

    What are you going to do to prepare yourself for being world-famous?

    And how exactly do you imagine yourself changing from being hidden and incognito to being a world-famous Messiah - the most important person on the planet? And how will you make this happen once Armageddon begins?

    Have you thought it all through? Are you a man with a plan? If so, please share :)
     
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    Armageddon is the End of Time; the Source steps in at its climax, and resets earth for the Enlightened Saints.

    I'm just here saying get ready for it, and the religious texts globally should have already taught us to be Enlightened Saints.
    I'm a musician, chef, artist, and entertainer, etc, and I've spent 13 years online in chat rooms with large audiences conversing about religion.
    There are some things planned, and most bits the Source of reality will provide.
    Sorry I'm thinking you're not getting it, the world is so evil down near Hell it doesn't notice it follows the Antichrist already, where most are to be removed by Holy Quantum Fire in a Day, and after we come to a new world, where the wicked are removed...

    We don't need to convince anyone to hear God directly in the Messianic Age, everyone shall know God; so I do not need to teach people to listen after.

    In that time of teaching everyone about the things of God, is the same as in Heaven, we just allow the flow of the Source through us, and it does the show.

    In my opinion. :innocent:
     
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    Yes, you've said that our world is down near Hell before, but I don't quite understand this...

    Indeed, I believe you're saying we're growing closer and closer to Hell each day?

    Are you saying our world is near to Hell physically, or spiritually?

    Is hell a dimension of The Matrix under the governance of The Source, or is it a place that exists outside The Matrix, in base reality? In what way is our world near to Hell? You seem to think that Hell is somehow influencing our world, am I right? Does this involve the Anti-Christ? Basically: please define Hell, in relation to our world

    So the righteous will be sanctified? And grow closer to The Source and each other in a state of Heavenly bliss? Does this mean that the unrighteous will face damnation? Who judges? And on what basis?

    How should we prepare for it? What should I do to make sure I'm ready?

    So you feel totally prepared for End Times?

    What is The Messianic age? Is it the time just before the Apocalypse, when the Messiah will emerge and bring in End Times? Or does it refer to the time that happens after the end of the Earth?
     
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