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Featured Why do you say" you have to prove your personal faith and beliefs"

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Seeker of White Light, Nov 27, 2021.

  1. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Think before you speak....so stay silent.

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    Most of my threads do say what I believe because how can I tell others what they should believe, I can only speak from my belief, and I invite people to say what they believe, I don't invite an attack on my belief but questions are always well, but how people accept it as my personal beliefs is their business. Nobody has to believe the way I do.

    And again, this thread is not about me, but the answers you guys give to the OP, so let's stick to that
     
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  2. mikkel_the_dane

    mikkel_the_dane Shadow Wolf's Aspie sibling

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    So it is a belief that the world is natural/physical/material or a fact? The joke about God is than it is not the only version of absolute dogma about what the world really is.
     
  3. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Think before you speak....so stay silent.

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    Well, the question"prove it" does come up every day in RF, a bit tired of it
     
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    I have a very specific religious philosophy. I've shared it here, and many here, even atheists, are aware of my views. I don't recall the last time someone asked me to prove my views to them. I think most respect my views because I don't expect others to share in them. It's a matter of mutual respect for one's right their own views. I respect their right to their views, and the appear to respect my right to mine. Neither asks the other to prove anything unless they intend to change their views.
     
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  5. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Think before you speak....so stay silent.

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    Most of the time that question comes up is when God and God existence is mention, you don't often use those words, as far as I know
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    If some one says that earth is 6000 year old that a God made it up in six days, etc. in 21st Century, then that is sure irrational. Or that a God has only one way to communicate with people (through intermediaries), then this is questionable.
     
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    They don't.

    But they post on the debate boards here at their own risk.
     
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  8. Seeker of White Light

    Seeker of White Light Think before you speak....so stay silent.

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    And they should be able to do so, it is a religious forum (as far as I know)
     
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    I would call it a perspective before I would call it a belief or a fact.

    For example, the taste of okra or Brussel's sprouts. "Okra and Brussels sprouts are among the worst tasting foods on earth" is neither a belief nor a fact. It is a matter of perspective. Some people like them, some people don't.
     
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    As I said in my subsequent post, people here rarely ask me to prove anything.
     
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    Or that I am irrational as a human. There is functionally no difference between you go to hell or you are not the correct version of a proper human based on my personal evaluation. Both are without proof, evidence, reationality, logic, objectivity and all the rest of that jazz.
    So I don't care if you treat my like I am going to hell or like a really irrational human. So me they are the same, because they are in the person, who claim it and not about me.

    Try this one. Autocorrect did an number on me.
     
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    Prove it. :p
     
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    I would argue that it's about both.
     
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  14. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    If it is a debate or discussion forum then there are bound to be replies and comments. No one stops or has the right to stop any from posting. :)
     
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    The problem is culture. In some cases God is personal, yet some people treat all versions of God as if it is a case of universal objective authority. And then they use their standard attack version on that God and don't notice that there is another version. In short for the Scandinavian culture God is personal and not about society and all that.
     
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    I would. ;)
     
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  17. mikkel_the_dane

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    Well, I use another perspective and yet I am not standard religious as for theism or all that.
     
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    It's been my experience that most non-Dharmics and non-Pagans will default to the Abrahamic God in any discussion of God, regardless of context.
     
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    That is OK. We probably have the largest pantheon of personal God and Goddesses, the number goes into thousands. We do not even know the names of Gods and Goddesses worshiped by other Hindus. One comes across a new one frequently.
    I go by Occam's Razor or Buddha's 'Kesamutti Sutta'. Not just heaven or hell, many other thing also have been removed.
     
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