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Featured Why Do You Concern Yourself With the Beliefs of Others?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by SalixIncendium, Mar 28, 2021.

  1. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    This thread was inspired by a video another member posted in another thread asking how we decide whether the claim of another is true or not true.

    I think it's a pretty simple and straight forward question that requires no elaboration.

    Why do you concern yourself with the beliefs or views of others?
     
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  2. Vinayaka

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    I don't, unless it's directly affecting my life, and I can't see that happening. As to understanding why other people concern themselves with others, I have some ideas, but that's not what you asked.
     
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  3. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    I dont really unless those beliefs become actions that impose on others beliefs. However is it interesting on a psychological level
     
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    Similar to the previous answer; I don't concern myself with other beliefs UNLESS they try to affect how I can live.
    e.g. Restricted shops on holy days, abortion rights, tax privileges, etc
     
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  5. SalixIncendium

    SalixIncendium Advaita Vedantin
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    This one piques my curiosity. You take issue if a shop owner of a particular religion closes their shop on their religious holiday?
     
  6. PureX

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    I don't think anyone cares at all what other people believe. I think what we care about is what other people assert to be real, and true. Because if they are right, and we are wrong, then we are vulnerable to suffering the consequence of our wrongness.
     
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  7. SalixIncendium

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    I was asking about why you care, not why you think other care. I'm not sure why you feel the need to speak for others given the question asked specifically about you.
     
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  8. Altfish

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    No, I take issue of the UK's Sunday trading laws that restrict opening hours for shops because of 'Jesus'

    Individual shop keepers can open when they want
     
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  9. PureX

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    You asked, I answered.
     
  10. Unveiled Artist

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    Outside of RF I have no reason to think about it. The few christians I speak with don't bring up religion. I actually have no means to know what others believe because I have no right and reason to ask unless the topic comes up which is highly rare 1% of the time.

    On RF I rarely ask pagans, hindus, jw, jews what they believe no more than basics or from teachings I already know. Other times I have similar views but I just leave it alone.

    I guess out of interest, challenge, and learning. But concern? Only if it affects my life, I don't care.
     
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    Which video?

    The one with the little girl?

    That's great.

    I won't have to type too much.

    Because, according to the understanding I have of my religion, their actions will ultimately have an impact on the planet I live on.

    Like it was in the days of Noah, and like it was in the days of Lot.

    And they can also be used as an indicator on how short the time is.

    Like when God told Abraham he couldn't go into the holy land yet, because the sins of the Amorites had not yet reached their limit. (It wasn't time yet to kick them out)

    Or when we're at the appointed time of the end, and the transgressors have reached their limit.

    "In the latter period of their reign, when the transgressors have reached their limit, a fierce-looking king, a master of intrigue, will arise.. - Daniel 8:23

    We might still have a bit of time left, I don't think Biden is a "fierce-looking king", OR "a master of intrigue."

    Hope he can watch his step on those stairs. :)

    Probably too much elaboration?
     
  12. WalterTrull

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    Yeah, If your religion tells you to kill me, I'm against it.
     
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  13. Secret Chief

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    I agree with that, in principle, but as an ex-retail worker, Sunday is now just another working day for retail workers, whereas it used to mean a definite day off. Now employers can, and do, expect such workers to be available 7 days a week. How many office workers would like to be in that situation?
    I'm amazed shops are still shut on Christmas day tbh.
     
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    1. An interest in the variety of human beliefs. I'm interested in the many ways people view the world around them.

    2. Beliefs often inspire actions. Understanding motivations helps to understand what happens in the world.

    3. Challenging my own beliefs. By understanding the beliefs of others, I challenge my own beliefs, testing them to see if they need changing or modification.
     
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    Yeah. Here the only thing that's open is 7'11 and Sheetz gas/convienent store. They are pretty serious. Not quite bible belt but not like in cities where stores have limited hours and fast foods are open.
     
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    Most beliefs do respect people's free will.
    So why should I concern myself with others' beliefs? They respect my free will...so I am supposed to respect theirs.:)
     
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    But isn’t that the primary reason why anyone would be active on a discussion forum? They want to hear from others and/or need others to be interested in their own POV.
     
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    I like to learn about people and see how the society is affected by things people believe in.

    It's nice to know who's out there, who the majority is, and who the minority is.

    Infringement is another reason for concerning myself with others beliefs.

    I want to be challenged by others worldviews.

    Sometimes certain people enjoy relating that way.

    It's an education.

    If people are successful why not learn from them.

    RF is just the place to do the unconventional and learn what people believe in.

    Beliefs can drive people's motivations.

    As long as people are about living and let living I guess it's not an issue.
     
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  19. It Aint Necessarily So

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    I don't actually care what others believe, just what they know and can demonstrate.

    I do, however, like analyzing the arguments of others and identifying and naming logical fallacies therein. For example, a few days ago, somebody was implying that the Bible revealed a superhuman understanding of the history of the universe by pointing out a few commonalities between the biblical creation stories and the scientific account. I pointed out to him that that was a classic Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy citing the similarities between the two while ignoring the differences, and claiming that that is significant.

    Right before that, somebody was claiming that the universe had to have a first cause, but not a god - a classic case of Special Pleading. I pointed out that if things can exist uncreated, then why not a universe.

    I don't think it helps them any, but it's helped me.
     
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    How so?
     
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