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Featured Why do you believe in God of Abraham?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by Starlight, Nov 22, 2022.

  1. Starlight

    Starlight Well-Known Member

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    Why do you believe in God of Abraham?
     
  2. Exaltist Ethan

    Exaltist Ethan Earth is Divine Nature

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    I don't. I believe in the God of Syntheism. Why do I believe in the God of Syntheism? Because anything is possible, and the only thing that doesn't change is change itself.

    I'm not trying to derail the discussion. I'd like to hear what Jews / Christians / Muslims / Baha'is have to say about this.

    @Starlight your religious status is still "Spiritual". Do you believe in the God of Abraham? Or are you asking us this question as an inquiry for western theology?
     
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  3. Starlight

    Starlight Well-Known Member

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    I believe God is universal. That God is beyond religion. God has no spesific religion in my opinion

    I asked the question because i am curious :blush:
     
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  4. metis

    metis aged ecumenical anthropologist

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    I don't believe that the belief in God or Gods started with Abraham.
     
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    Because the God of Abraham is also the God of Jesus - my Lord and Saviour

    i.e. Jesus follows the God of Abraham, and I follow Jesus!
     
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  6. Sgt. Pepper

    Sgt. Pepper RF's resident Beatlemaniac. ☮ and ❤

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    I'm an agnostic, not an atheist, when it comes to the Abrahamic God. I'm an agnostic, not an atheist, because I can't honestly prove or disprove the existence of any gods or goddesses, and that includes the God of the Bible. To be honest, I can't say with certainty that I know that any deities exist or don't exist because I'm not all-knowing and all-powerful, and I can't transcend time and be in all places at once to prove or disprove the existence of deities. I believe in multiple gods because I'm inclined to believe in the supernatural, and I have my reasons for believing as I do. I wouldn't be honest with myself or with others if I said that there aren't any gods that exist.
     
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    Only nicene creed christian.
     
  8. 9-10ths_Penguin

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    I don't.

    :shrug:
     
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    What standard are you using for "proof," though?

    I mean, all human knowledge is tentative, yadda yadda, but at some level of confidence, we can say that our conclusion is practically certain.

    Technically, I can't say with perfect certainty that T. Rexes are extinct, but I don't worry about - and don't get challenged on - ignoring the miniscule uncertainty and treating this conclusion as definitely true for all intents and purposes.

    I think it's reasonble to say that there's less uncertainty - still technically non-zero, but still less - in saying that the God of Abraham exists than in saying that T. Rexes no longer exist, so I'm just as comfortable saying that the God of Abraham definitely does not exist as I am saying that T. Rexes are definitely extinct.
     
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    Nakosis Time Efficient Lollygagger
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    IMO, because at a young age you are surrounded by people that accept his existence as fact.
    Takes a while to question what the people you depend on for all your knowledge about the world tell you is true.

    I suppose some of us never really get to that point.
     
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    dybmh Terminal Optimist

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    process of elimination

    the creator is at the top of the food chain
     
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    When you ask the question, what precisely do you mean by "believe in?" Do you mean:
    1. Believe in the ontological existence of? (yes, everything clears that bar)
    2. Believe in as a god I actively and meaningfully worship as part of my religion? (no)
    3. Believe in as something to look up to or emulate as a paragon of virtue? (possibly, but not personally)
    4. Believe in as a god that is trustworthy? (possibly, but not personally)
    5. Believe in as a god who will help me and look out for me? (unlikely and improbable)
     
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  13. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
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    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    God of Abraham cannot be universal. He is that of Abraham.
    Hindus have many Gods and Goddesses.
    What is universal in Hinduism is not a God (Brahman).
    Brahman is what constitutes all things in the universe.
     
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  15. Aštra’el

    Aštra’el Aštara, Blade of Aštoreth

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    I didn’t, not for a long time. It was only when I had reached my furthest point away from God(s), that I reached that place and experienced the event that became the catalyst of my transformation. Then, something inside me awoke. I began to see things differently. Gradually, everything became more vivid. My True Will became clear to me. I was honest with myself about who I was and who I sought to become. My ambitions were fueled by many things, including powerful inspiration drawn from Above, and Below… and Within.

    Time passed. Dreams became a reality. I realized I did not require middle men to interpret for me. I had become my own conduit. I could just reach out. Anytime, anywhere. I did not have to wait. I could just do. I felt no obligation to conform to a religion, chain myself down, and depend on the spiritual guidance of others… when I could construct and develop my own religion- for me- and set myself free. And so I did. And now I worship God(s) in my own way.
     
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    The standard of proof that I lean on most to believe in the possibility of multiple deities (and to believe in anything else supernatural) is frowned upon by Christians and dismissed by skeptical non-Christians. But before I reveal the primary reason for my belief in the possible existence of multiple gods, I want to be clear that I won't debate the subject with you or anybody else. If you're interested, you can read a thorough explanation of why I won't argue about my beliefs in my prior post here. In a previous post here, I also gave a better description of my spiritual beliefs. The primary reason why I believe in the possible existence of multiple gods is because, as a psychic medium, I know that spirits exist, so I don't think it's unreasonable for me to believe that multiple deities could also exist.

    And while I acknowledge that I can't prove or refute the existence of gods, I have compiled a substantial amount of evidence over the past fifteen years to substantiate the existence of both human spirits and non-human entities. I have posted some of the evidence I documented during my paranormal investigations this year, as well as my personal experiences as a psychic medium, in several of my own threads in the paranormal activities forum, as well as in a few threads started by other members. Finally, I'd like to reaffirm that I won't debate with other people about my psychic mediumship, my personal paranormal experiences, or my spiritual beliefs. As far as I'm concerned, people can accept or reject what I share about my personal experiences as a medium and a paranormal investigator.
     
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    I think you may have misunderstood my question.

    Set aside the question of gods or the paranormal; how much confidence do you need to have in a conclusion before you treat it as certainly true? I'm talking about conclusions like "T. Rexes are extinct" or "I'm out of flour" or "my car's engine is powered by gasoline."

    All of those everyday conclusions have a certain degree of uncertainty to them. How certain do you have to be generally before you treat a conclusion as definitely true? Not perfectly certain, obviously, because perfect certainty is impossible for any human knowledge. Are you "agnostic" about mundane claims as well? If not, is there some reason to assume that the Abrahamic God's non-existence is subject to greater uncertainty than those other conclusions?

    Personally, my estimate of the likelihood of God existing is lower than my estimate of the likelihood of T. Rexes being alive today. At least we know that a living T. Rex is possible, so it has a significant advantage over God in terms of plausibility.
     
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    I believe in the God of Abraham because of what Baha'u'llah revealed about that God, which he referred to as the one true God of all the religions.
     
  19. IndigoChild5559

    IndigoChild5559 Loving God and my neighbor as myself.

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    What was available before in the pantheons of idols? They required worship but said nothing about being a decent human being. Ethics would vary from god to god... and how consistent is to serve the values of the goddess of love on Tuesday, and then serve the values of the god of War on Wednesday? In ethical monotheism, we finally have a God who cares how we treat each other, with one consistent set of ethics based on the idea of loving your neighbor as yourself.
     
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    You sound like a Christian.
     
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