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Why do you accept the bible as inerrant historical fact?

Discussion in 'Religious Debates' started by nazz, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. AmbiguousGuy

    AmbiguousGuy Well-Known Member

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    There are no such fulfilled prophecies, at least to my knowledge. But you're willing to list your very best two or three -- those which you see as having been fulfilled in a remarkable way.

    In other words, show me a prophecy made by Baha'u'llah which could not have been made by most anyone.
     
  2. ruffen

    ruffen Active Member

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    No fullfilled prophecy will ever be evidence of anything. If I say that this-or-that will happen and then it actually happens, I might just have been lucky, or people might have forgotten all the mistaken prophecies I've made.
     
  3. AmbiguousGuy

    AmbiguousGuy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, prophecy appears to be a mind game, like numerology. Anyone can convince themselves of anything.

    But I don't think any worthwhile God would want His creations to be gullible. He wouldn't use prophecy to prove Himself.

    Just my view of it. Not trying to offend anyone (although I'm sure I have).
     
  4. BruceDLimber

    BruceDLimber Well-Known Member

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    That's reassuring. :)

    But that said, we see God as One and indivisible regardless of how humans have separated and/or recombined Him and His aspects over the millenia. . . .

    Peace, :)

    Bruce
     
  5. BruceDLimber

    BruceDLimber Well-Known Member

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    Ignoring your rather abitrary restrictions, here's the list:

    Baha'u'llah could--and did!--make many totally accurate prophecies in numerous, unrelated fields in which He could not possibly have had any earthly knowledge or expertise. Gary Matthews has written two books discussing this.

    Here's Matthews' overall list of prophecies by Baha'u'llah that he then goes on to discuss in great depth:
     
  6. AmbiguousGuy

    AmbiguousGuy Well-Known Member

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    My only restriction is that it has to actually be a successful prediction.

    That's a fine opinion. I don't share it. Neither do the Christians, the Muslims, the Hindus, the atheists, etc....

    Only the Baha'is agree with you. Doesn't that make you wonder?

    OK. Lots of people write such books. I think they are confused.

    Not interested. But as I said before, if you'd like to present a few, I'll take a look and show you why I don't see them as remarkable.
     
  7. BruceDLimber

    BruceDLimber Well-Known Member

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    I already did.

    "Less talk and more action."
     
  8. Pegg

    Pegg Jehovah our God is One

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    how does the age of the earth make evolution true?
     
  9. outhouse

    outhouse Atheistically

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    They are talking about age and how life originated to its current state.

    That is something no ancient man understood, or wrote about.


    What we are left with IS creation mythology. ONLY certain people cannot accept facts regarding the reality of life on this planet.


    One thing is certain, we are not moving backwards on this. Creation mythology is slowly going extinct due to the vast amount of knowledge we have at hand.
     
  10. Pegg

    Pegg Jehovah our God is One

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    funny, i thought they still dont know how life originated on earth. So where are all the research papers on abiogenesis....i'd like to see that
     
  11. CynthiaCypher

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    Well I may not accept the Bible as inerrant. I have a question to ask.

    Why accept any accepted text such as what is taught in any history book as inerrant historical fact?
     
  12. Amechania

    Amechania Daimona of the Helpless

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    Nothing is inerrant but some things can be verified. First person sources, artifacts, etc. If the history book says so-and-so ruled at such a time, and see, here's the coin to prove it, it's more difficult to refute. The problem with much of the historicity of the Bible is that it is difficult to confirm by any source other than itself, and so would not be considered history by the least rigorous of definitions. Is there historical accuracy in the Bible? Probably some. Is alot of it invented? No doubt.
     
  13. outhouse

    outhouse Atheistically

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    Lets look at what we do know.

    Life came about from simple single cell and evolved from there, starting roughly 3.5 billion year ago.

    This is as fact as gravity.


    Anything else is mythology.
     
  14. nazz

    nazz Doubting Thomas

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    One should definitely not do so if one cares anything about truth. But there is history with evidence behind it.
     
  15. ammaduddin

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    BIBLE contain historical facts but we cant believe it absolutely..
     
  16. RabbiO

    RabbiO הרב יונה בן זכריה

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    Let me guess - it's because the Jews and the Christians have corrupted their scriptures?
    Maybe some evil scribes?
     
  17. steeltoes

    steeltoes Junior member

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    For Jesus to be real The Bible has to be historically reliable.

    For those that it really matters to, The Bible is historically reliable.
     
  18. Desert Snake

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    Much of the 'scientific' "truth" presented on the forums is a bunch of hooey.
     
  19. rusra02

    rusra02 Well-Known Member
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    I believe the historicity of the Bible, despite constant attacks, has proven to be reliable and true. Skeptics question virtually everything written in the Scriptures, from the account in Genesis to the historicity of Jesus Christ. Time and again, archeological discoveries have confounded the critics and vindicated the Bible as historically correct. To cite one example of many, prominent scholars once claimed that Assyrian King Sargon II, whose name appears in the Bible at Isaiah 20:1, never existed. In 1843 on a tributary of the Tigris River, Sargon’s palace was found. Sargon II is now one of the best-known kings of Assyria.
    Add to this the internal consistency and harmony of a book 1,500 years in the making, the obvious candor of it's writers, and the Bible's remarkable and successful fight to survive, not to mention it's countless prophecies, in effect history written before it happens, and I am convinced the Bible is what it says it is, the word of God.
     
  20. Willamena

    Willamena Just me
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    Many people find a very real Christ in the non-literal.
     
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