Why do we need the UN if .... ?

[TashaN]

They can see and hear but "No Comment"

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- Do you think the UN can condemn making comments and actions ONLY against weak countries only who have no support from a veto holding country?

- If yes, why the world need such a thing?

IMO, It's not fair at all.

What do you think?​

 

[ALifetimeToWaitFor....]

Truthfully we don't need the U.N. it does nothing. Its a show for the world that for obvious reasons i.e. Iraq, Iran don't summit to. They don't have any say in it!

 

[ALifetimeToWaitFor....]

sorry some countries was suppose to be in there somewhere

 

[c0da]

The UN are absolutely bloody useless. The UN and it's member countries have sat back whilst Hezballah has armed, yet now they are moaning at Israel's military activity in southern Lebanon.

 

[jewscout]

notice how it's the US and the jews...not the US and Israel...because the other arm isn't the Israeli flag...just a Magen David on black background...




i think the UN does a fine job of condemning whoever they want...
the only problem is whether it's country A or country B...the UN is totally inept and incapable of enforcing anything

it's all politics and countries act in their best interest, it's really not that complicated people...

why do we need the UN?? because as inept as they are it is still a place where countries can convene to discuss issue and the UN does engage in a fair amount of much needed humanitarian work

 

[c0da]

notice how it's the US and the jews...not the US and Israel...because the other arm isn't the Israeli flag...just a Magen David on black background...

Ha, yeah, because not only do the Jews control the world's finanace and media, they control the UN too.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

notice how it's the US and the jews...not the US and Israel...because the other arm isn't the Israeli flag...just a Magen David on black background...

Israel is a Jewish state that the author of the strip may not recognize.

In any case, I wonder what the world would look like if Islamic fundamentalists had any power to speak of.

 

[michel]

notice how it's the US and the jews...not the US and Israel...because the other arm isn't the Israeli flag...just a Magen David on black background...




i think the UN does a fine job of condemning whoever they want...
the only problem is whether it's country A or country B...the UN is totally inept and incapable of enforcing anything

it's all politics and countries act in their best interest, it's really not that complicated people...

why do we need the UN?? because as inept as they are it is still a place where countries can convene to discuss issue and the UN does engage in a fair amount of much needed humanitarian work

Well said!:clap

 

[angellous_evangellous]

why do we need the UN?? because as inept as they are it is still a place where countries can convene to discuss issue and the UN does engage in a fair amount of much needed humanitarian work

Yes! :yes:

 

[TashaN]

Truthfully we don't need the U.N. it does nothing. Its a show for the world that for obvious reasons i.e. Iraq, Iran don't summit to. They don't have any say in it!

The UN are absolutely bloody useless. The UN and it's member countries have sat back whilst Hezballah has armed, yet now they are moaning at Israel's military activity in southern Lebanon.

They are really bloody useless but i believe that the world might be worse if it wasn't there. The problem is that it's not useless against all but useless toward some and very active toward the others.

 

[TashaN]

notice how it's the US and the jews...not the US and Israel...because the other arm isn't the Israeli flag...just a Magen David on black background...

So what? it's like saying Palestinians and the Arabs are two different people.

Israel (Hebrew: מְדִינַת יִשְׂרָאֵל (help·info); Medinat Yisra'el; Arabic: دَوْلَةْ إِسْرَائِيل‎, Dawlat Isrā'īl), officially the State of Israel is a country in Western Asia on the southeastern edge of the Mediterranean Sea. Israel's declared capital is Jerusalem. Jerusalem's status is controversial, however, leading most countries to locate their embassies in Tel Aviv. [2]
Israel is a parliamentary democracy and the world's only Jewish state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

The term "Jewish State" is sometimes used to describe the State of Israel and refers to its status as a nation-state for the Jewish people. This concept of an ethnic Jewish homeland is enshrined in Israeli national policy and reflected in many of Israel's public institutions. The concept was codified in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel on 14 May 1948 as well as in the Law of Return, which was passed by the Knesset on 5 July 1950, and stated "Every Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh," an "oleh" being an immigrant Jew [1]. This is intended to make citizenship easier to acquire for Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state

i think the UN does a fine job of condemning whoever they want...

Only IF the US government didn't use the veto to stop them from ....

condemning whoever they want

U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel (1972-2006)​

from: "Jewish Virtual Library"​

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html



Peace and blessing,

The Truth​

 

[jewscout]

So what? it's like saying Palestinians and the Arabs are two different people.

Israel (Hebrew: מְדִינַת יִשְׂרָאֵל (help·info); Medinat Yisra'el; Arabic: دَوْلَةْ إِسْرَائِيل‎, Dawlat Isrā'īl), officially the State of Israel is a country in Western Asia on the southeastern edge of the Mediterranean Sea. Israel's declared capital is Jerusalem. Jerusalem's status is controversial, however, leading most countries to locate their embassies in Tel Aviv. [2]
Israel is a parliamentary democracy and the world's only Jewish state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel

The term "Jewish State" is sometimes used to describe the State of Israel and refers to its status as a nation-state for the Jewish people. This concept of an ethnic Jewish homeland is enshrined in Israeli national policy and reflected in many of Israel's public institutions. The concept was codified in the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel on 14 May 1948 as well as in the Law of Return, which was passed by the Knesset on 5 July 1950, and stated "Every Jew has the right to come to this country as an oleh," an "oleh" being an immigrant Jew [1]. This is intended to make citizenship easier to acquire for Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_state

so Israel = Jews...ok thanks for clarifing that and supporting the idea that "israelis are jews living in israel, and jews are israelis living everywhere else"

U.S. Vetoes of UN Resolutions Critical of Israel (1972-2006)

from: "Jewish Virtual Library"​

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/.../usvetoes.html​

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wow...surprise...an ally supporting another ally...i'm shocked...really i am

it's sort of like when the US supported Saddam w/ weapons to fight Iran yet turns a blind eye when Saddam gasses the Kurds until the 1990's and then we act all shocked and upset about it...

there are plenty of UN resolutions condemning many nations, not just Israel...and guess what...nothing ever comes of them...take a look at Darfur​

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[croak]

Hmm, nice vetoes. Plenty of them. Have a look at these:

Occupied Territories: Calls upon Israel to respect Muslim holy places. S/17769/Rev. 1

Occupied territories: Strongly deplored Israeli policies and practices in the occupied territories, and strongly deplored also Israel's continued disregard of relevant Security Council decisions. [emphasis mine]

So basically, even if all those resolutions weren't vetoed, Israel would probably have ignored them.

there are plenty of UN resolutions condemning many nations, not just Israel...and guess what...nothing ever comes of them...take a look at Darfur

This link shows US vetoes of resolutions against Israel. How about the UK vetoes, perhaps? How about resolutions that were passed but ignored by Israel? There must be a much bigger list.

So basically, if Iran ignores a UN resolution, the rest of the world can go ahead and say whatever they want. But Israel, no, it doesn't have to do anything it doesn't want to.

 

[croak]

A List of UN SECURITY COUNCIL RESOLUTIONS against Israel
Those are not vetoed, I believe.

Mr. Bush, What about Israel's defiance of UN Resolutions?

Plenty more. Just type "UN Resolutions Israel" in Google.

I think the veto should be abolished. I mean, you could have a majority vote, then someone goes ahead and presses the veto button. Would it make the UN more effective? Well, most countries might decide they don't want others intervening in their affairs. But the UN can do some things. It did help get Syria out of Lebanon. -shrugs- It can do some things, but can't do others.

 

[jewscout]

i think the point is being missed in what i'm saying...
but Paw you bring up an interesting point w/ Iran...just as with Darfur...the UN passes all kinds of resolutions and many nations, not just Israel, ignore them. Why? because what's the UN going to do? nothing, that's what.

when was the last time the UN actually forced someone to do something? Their troops only do "peacekeeping" stuff which equates to standing around and doing nothing.

and Iran has ignored and vocally opposed UN resolutions against them.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/07/news/iran.php

so basically the theme seems to be...the UN can pass resolutions against anyone on anything..from Israel to Darfur to Iran...and they can do it until they are blue in the face and it won't make a whole lot of difference to the nations in question cause there isn't a whole lot the UN can do about it.

i can only think of one time that the UN actively forced something, and that was Desert Storm.

The rest is sound and fury signifying nothing...

 

[croak]

True. But Israel should already know that what it's doing goes against international law, the Geneva Convention, and so on. They shouldn't need UN resolutions to tell them that.

I can tell you that phosphorous bombs and cluster bombs have been used, which are both banned, in southern Lebanon.

And now I have to go.

 

[jewscout]

True. But Israel should already know that what it's doing goes against international law, the Geneva Convention, and so on. They shouldn't need UN resolutions to tell them that.

I can tell you that phosphorous bombs and cluster bombs have been used, which are both banned, in southern Lebanon

are we going to argue that hezbollah DOESN'T violate the Geneva convention?

 

[kreeden]

notice how it's the US and the jews...not the US and Israel...because the other arm isn't the Israeli flag...just a Magen David on black background...




i think the UN does a fine job of condemning whoever they want...
the only problem is whether it's country A or country B...the UN is totally inept and incapable of enforcing anything

I agree . It should be the flags of any country that has a veto . That one thing limits the U.N. more then anything I can think of .



[qoute]why do we need the UN?? because as inept as they are it is still a place where countries can convene to discuss issue and the UN does engage in a fair amount of much needed humanitarian work[/quote]

Again I agree . But is it enough ?

Personally I hope that something better will grow out of the U.N. .

 

[greatcalgarian]

UN is the place where the world few powerful nations (the five permanent members) sought to settle their problem with each other through a diplomatic means. Sometimes this diplomatic means could be testing out each other by war and battles instigated and supported by these powers. In a sense, it is a place to prevent really drastic war such as the nuclear war, and very large scale war. Small wars is the battleground where each of the five nations play out their skill at manuevering the world, fighting for economic gain etc. Without UN, then the world could be a more chaotic place than now. UN has her functions, where most of the times compromise was reached and a solution found for two or more confronting nations to 'save face' and settle the problems.

 

[Booko]

- If yes, why the world need such a thing?

IMO, It's not fair at all.

What do you think?​

I think the UN needs serious reform. And yes, the veto is one of the major things that need to be looked at.

They do have their use for large-scale disaster relief, though. I would not want to get rid of the UN, just because people are in desperate need and UN organizations are helping them.