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Why do we need God? (no atheists please)

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by Arrow, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. Arrow

    Arrow Member

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    Basically, i just wanted to know why believers believe they need God. I guess i am looking for a unanimous opinion on something other than salvation because as far as believers go, i would say that is the most obvious one. Once again, i thank you all for your input.
     
  2. Carlos Andres Restrepo

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    just to be able to give love to someone that will not judge me. Because It guides you from within, God is the balance of you with this world and His. Because is a friend, whom i don't pray but whom i talk to, as a friend.


    thought if you are seeking truth, you should also listen to the Non- believers...when seeking truth you always have to know both sides, you never know the ultimate truth, you should not only learn from those who believe, or what sense that would have?
     
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  3. cardero

    cardero Citizen Mod

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    I would agree with the majority of this.

    Do I believe in GOD?
    Yes.
    Do I need GOD?
    No.
    Does GOD need me?
    No.
     
  4. Ab'dal Hameed

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    I think my awareness of God began with the realisation that I am a created being-the result of being created,not something else.It was a devastating realisation.

    All my knowing of God and myself as "religious" has rested on that.
     
  5. St. Thomas

    St. Thomas New Member

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    I will not be so vain as to say I know GOD or even what HE expects from me.
    But I do know that HE wants what is best for me. Yes, even the downfalls of life have there positive effect on us. Allthough we may not always agree with the way something is taught us, the lesson it`s self is allways a valuable one.
    Now for your question.
    Why do I need GOD?
    Let me reply by asking you, why do you need to ask?
    You already know the answer!
    I think, just like most of us, you just can`t find the right words to explain it.
     
  6. Bishka

    Bishka Veteran Member

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    Because....isn't that a good enough answer? Why do people think they need to know every nook and cranny about God. Sometimes God does things and we may not know the reason why, but there is a reason. We may not figure the reason out for days, years, or even the rest of our mortal life.

    We need God, because without Him, we would be stuck.
     
  7. Fluffy

    Fluffy A fool

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    I don't need my gods. I just like having them around.
     
  8. Zsr1973

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    If you look at "Gods" in a purely original biblical sense of Eloheem "these beings" or the Egyptian Neteru "human Gods" than I view them as my ancestors. I need to acknowledge them in order for me to be connected to my line going back to original creation.

    I am not taling about who they call God in the context of "the original creator". This meaning does not match with this word. I don't understand why Christians don't look at the third declaration of the Lord's prayer [1. OUR father.. 2. who art IN HEAVEN.. 3. HOLY is thy NAME...} which is the part saying his name is holy. I would want to know what name Jesus is using and use that name for myself. I wouldn't care if "everybody" is using the name 'God'. Since when is "everybody" usually right when it comes to religious matters? Luckily I'm not a Christian although I do believe in the messiah Jesus.

    I view 'God" in the sense of the 'All' or the essence of 'Nature". Not the words I like to use, but I think you get my meaning. Thats why I need God. However, in my order, we see ourselves as the "Gods" whose divinity is based on having a proper connection with our Great Ancestors, internally.
     
  9. bigvindaloo

    bigvindaloo Active Member

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    I (you) need God because it gives us something to look forward to (beyond this life). A definition of happiness I heard recently was "someone to love, something to do, something to look forward to". God could easily fulfill all three criteria.

    Cheers
     
  10. MM21

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    Why do we need God???? Let’s generalize this question. 1) Look at this nation (USA). How corrupt, how self-centered, how materialistic, how evil it has become. America was founded on Biblical principles, coincidence that it is the greatest nation on earth? To some extent… We are now falling away from what it was initially made out to be. Taking God out of everything. 2) Now think…about our society and culture and how we have swayed from any sense of morality. Issues today would have not have been issues 40 years ago (ref. my dad. Considering I’m only 21) Seriously…3) To answer your question…Why do we, need God???? Look at the American society and that should answer the question =/
     
  11. Fluffy

    Fluffy A fool

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    Medival Christian Europe was not exactly a bastion of crunchy moral goodness.
     
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  12. pandamonk

    pandamonk Active Member

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    You actually have this the wrong way round. America was founded by those wanting religious freedom. It has, though, become a christian nation and is going downhill as you say, look at your leader for instance. Only now is secularism starting to creep in, and many religious(mainly christian)people among you don't like it.
     
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    Just to say, maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it seems to me you contradict yourself. You say that America is twisted, immoral, materialistic, evil, etc....and you call it the greatest nation on earth. :sarcastic :shrug:

    To answer Arrow's question...I agree with Carlos. I don't feel I need God; in fact, I never gave God much thought until about six months ago. But my faith in God these last six months has changed me. I've noticed it. I'm happier, more confident, stronger emotionally...and I feel a greater need to do good in the world and stand up for what I think is right. So I don't need God, but I do believe that my faith in God has helped me, because I believe there is someone who will always be there for me and love me. :)
     
  14. EnhancedSpirit

    EnhancedSpirit High Priestess

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    This is a good example of what I was going to say. I need God, like a toaster needs an electrical outlet. We are born with a set of internal batteries, but that will only get us so far. We can also draw power from others, but again, this will only get us so far and puts strains on relationships. If we want to run at full capacity, we need to plug into the unlimited source of energy.
     
  15. Carlos Andres Restrepo

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    I think we do not expecifically need to called God, some people just need something to love with all their strenght, and even if they claim they do not believe in God, the fact that they love someone or something with all their strenght, makes God to be in that place. Love is God, God is love.
     
  16. MM21

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    Yea...but even in their religious freedom they still decided to put God in the mix. Today, they want to take God out of everything. That's more or less what I meant
     
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    I suppose I'll add my voice to the "I don't need" chorus.

    I don't need my gods. I got on just fine without Them and, I suspect, I would get on just fine if I were to go without Them in future.

    But I believe that a person and their gods can strike a mutually beneficial arrangement, even if that arrangement can be purely mercenary at times.
     
  19. ΩRôghênΩ

    ΩRôghênΩ Disciple of Light

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    If I am created by the creator, then the creator has purpose for me. purpose drives the universe, therefore every individual thing within it. Coming to realize that nothing exists without purpose, shows that purpose is needed to be found and completed. That is why i need god, so that I may find purpose in a meaningless world
     
  20. Ab'dal Hameed

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    That is where we have to begin,I think. That connexion is essential with anOther.Call it "need" or faith or dependence. A dynamic of relationship is necessary. It divides the religious from the non-religious. A dialogue with an Unknown exists.
     
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