1. Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Why do some

Discussion in 'The Green Room' started by Amanaki, Sep 24, 2019.

  1. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    9,550
    Ratings:
    +5,613
    Religion:
    Falun Gong (Cultivation path)
    Why do some people almost refuse to look at nature and say, Yes we do have a problem with pollution?
    Or in the big cities where pollution is visible? Do they not see that it is clearly comming from cars that use fosile fuel?

    The worsed polluted Cities in the world are in Asia, so maybe Americans or Europeans do not care about it since those people are so far away?

    America`s worsed pollutes cities Most Polluted Cities | State of the Air

    Europa`s worsed polluted cities Europe: Pollution Index by City 2018

    So everyone who cares about the future would maybe benefit from study the situation we are in?
     
    • Like Like x 2
  2. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    3,369
    Ratings:
    +2,607
    Religion:
    Baha'i inspired liberal
    Do you own an electric car?
    Personally I would if I could afford one.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Winner Winner x 1
  3. Epic Beard Man

    Epic Beard Man Bearded Philosopher

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,687
    Ratings:
    +3,561
    Religion:
    Agnostic-Monotheist
    I live in California, I say this almost everyday.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  4. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    9,550
    Ratings:
    +5,613
    Religion:
    Falun Gong (Cultivation path)
    I take the bus :) But I am soon in need of a car because of my fianceè is now permanent in a wheelchair and then yes we will buy an electric van so we can bring the wheelchair with us
     
    • Like Like x 2
  5. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    11,607
    Ratings:
    +3,328
    Religion:
    Pelagianism
    There is something I do not understand about the Left....
    Why do they speak of overpopulation only when it deals with Europeans...whereas Europeans' birth rates are the lowest in the world?

    That said, I think overpopulation is the problem...but the ones who cause it are non Europeans.
     
  6. Epic Beard Man

    Epic Beard Man Bearded Philosopher

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,687
    Ratings:
    +3,561
    Religion:
    Agnostic-Monotheist
    The discussion is about pollution
     
    • Like Like x 1
  7. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    9,550
    Ratings:
    +5,613
    Religion:
    Falun Gong (Cultivation path)
    Overpopulation is beginning to be a problem, but if humans stop eat meat, then suddenly we have food enough to feed 12 billion on the earth.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  8. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    11,607
    Ratings:
    +3,328
    Religion:
    Pelagianism
    Pollution is directly proportional to the number of population...in fact Siberia has a very clean atmosphere because of this reason.
     
  9. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    9,550
    Ratings:
    +5,613
    Religion:
    Falun Gong (Cultivation path)
    Your question was valid to the climate discussion :) No problem to ask in my view :)
     
  10. Epic Beard Man

    Epic Beard Man Bearded Philosopher

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2013
    Messages:
    7,687
    Ratings:
    +3,561
    Religion:
    Agnostic-Monotheist
    Did you look at the links though?
     
  11. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2006
    Messages:
    13,076
    Ratings:
    +2,647
    Religion:
    Panreligious mystical paganism
    Does the left do this?
     
  12. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2006
    Messages:
    13,076
    Ratings:
    +2,647
    Religion:
    Panreligious mystical paganism
    I think people are opposed to change in general. Environmental concerns have also been propogandized to equate it with "tree hugging hippies" (nothing wrong them folk, by the way!) leading to environmentalism being part of the divisive political landscape. Some folks profit greatly from industry and other folks don't want their consumerism stunted.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  13. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    11,607
    Ratings:
    +3,328
    Religion:
    Pelagianism
    Some who support Greta do.
     
  14. KenS

    KenS Veteran Member
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2013
    Messages:
    10,148
    Ratings:
    +2,862
    Religion:
    Judeo/Christian
    Yes, some refuse. I think also, there are those who are trying to put food on the table and pay the electric bill and pollution takes a back seat to living.

    Great job! For it to be accessible to the everyday person?

    I think there is already enough food to feed 12 billion people and meat helps make it possible. :)
     
    • Like Like x 1
  15. Estro Felino

    Estro Felino Believer in free will
    Premium Member

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2014
    Messages:
    11,607
    Ratings:
    +3,328
    Religion:
    Pelagianism
    Thank you:)
    What I meant is that since we Westerners ought to bring welfare, work, agricultural systems, green economy, into Africa, to help them prosper, it is much easier if the population is less.
     
  16. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    9,550
    Ratings:
    +5,613
    Religion:
    Falun Gong (Cultivation path)
    I have food on the table, and I pay the electrical bill, and I live a life where I think of the environment, I do not eat meat, and actually I feel better than before.

    I have taken bus all my life and lived all my life in the countryside, never in the city, Yes the bus takes a bit longer time, but no worries about the environment since many busses here are electrical.
     
  17. Amanaki

    Amanaki Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2018
    Messages:
    9,550
    Ratings:
    +5,613
    Religion:
    Falun Gong (Cultivation path)
    We must deal with what facing us today, and yes some countries have many people who need help
     
  18. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2008
    Messages:
    46,687
    Ratings:
    +15,100
    Religion:
    Advocate of letting go of theism. Buddhist with an emphasis on personal understanding.
    Greed and immaturity. They can't accept that "every other" generation "could" neglect their duties to the environment and they have to renounce their attachments and ambitions "on the behalf of others".

    And they often concluded that there is no need to feel responsible, since it is "the foreigners' fault".

    Sure. But it is a challenge to have the proper acceptance settle in.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  19. Guitar's Cry

    Guitar's Cry Verisimilitudinous

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2006
    Messages:
    13,076
    Ratings:
    +2,647
    Religion:
    Panreligious mystical paganism
    I mean, it is ultimately humanity's problem, not a west vs east thing. Besides, the populous east is starting to face some of the same population decline as the west as women are becoming more successful and choosing not to have kids.
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  20. LuisDantas

    LuisDantas Aura of atheification
    Staff Member Premium Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2008
    Messages:
    46,687
    Ratings:
    +15,100
    Religion:
    Advocate of letting go of theism. Buddhist with an emphasis on personal understanding.
    I remember that my first significant disappointment with GWB came when I learned that he actually wanted to buy what I came to think of as "pollution indulgence". Right there I knew that the man was way too immature to come anywhere near a position of power.
     
Loading...