SoyLeche
meh...
Look, we agree on somethingsojourner said:Balderdash! Mary has always been held in esteem by the Church!
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Look, we agree on somethingsojourner said:Balderdash! Mary has always been held in esteem by the Church!
SoyLeche said:No, because there is no need to.
And, the OP specifically mentions praying to Mary. If you have an issue with that, take it up with SM. I'm just trying to address why I don't.
sojourner said:Balderdash! Mary has always been held in esteem by the Church!
So, giving prayer to someone is not the same thing as praying to them?SunMessenger said:Why not give The Holy Mother Of Jesus Prayer? Why are some Christians so against this? We give respect to our own mothers. Why not The Holy Mother Of Jesus Christ? If You read some information about Her Message it only asks for prayer and repentance for sins. Whats so wrong about that ? I thought I would inquire. Be Well and God Bless...
Evidence?ProfLogic said:only because there was a maryian movement. Plus some religions actually had to build statues for their saints. It was hard to build a statue of a god since it is hard to adore a burning bush statue. Mary was the model they selected.
ProfLogic said:only because there was a maryian movement. Plus some religions actually had to build statues for their saints. It was hard to build a statue of a god since it is hard to adore a burning bush statue. Mary was the model they selected.
sojourner said:No...only because she was the mother of Jesus.
SoyLeche said:Evidence?
Prove it.ProfLogic said:the mother of the powerful god would have more things written about her.
I don't want to be stepping on anyone's toes - but I think that was a bProfLogic said:Go to the people who added the rosary as prayer to mary.........evidence....
ProfLogic said:The original authors never cared...... A woman of that importance... the mother of the powerful god would have more things written about her. Not much in my assessment and thus it shows. No one really gave too much importance to Mary thus people only prayed to god (it).
sojourner said:See in red. This qualifies your entire argument. Once again, unless you understand Christian theology, your argument really has no leg to stand on.
ProfLogic said:I do not need to refer to chrisitan theology, I am refering to the culture it self in the old times until women liberation came late in the 20th century.
ProfLogic said:I do not need to refer to chrisitan theology, I am refering to the culture it self in the old times until women liberation came late in the 20th century.
SunMessenger said:It seems that visions of Our Holy Mother are the most frequent ones reported. They seem to be reported more and more all around the world. I am not refering to images in burned toast either. I am asking about witnessed or even accepted visions by some religions. Why is that ?What do you think about these events ?Do they relate to the increased interest in Praying with or to The Holy Mother ?
Peace and Reassurance is that what it is all about ? You may be right...sojourner said:Mary brings peace. The world is more stressed these days. We need peace more fervently.
sojourner said:ROFL :biglaugh:
The reason had much more to do with theology than with cultural anthropology here.
If your hypothosis is correct, why isn't a bigger deal made out of Jospeh, or Peter, or James, or John, or Matthew? It's because Jesus is the theological focus of the gospel message.
Victor said:Then why bother debating it?
Those who hold the Holy Mother in high esteem should be asked why they do, not assumed.
sojourner said:Mary brings peace. The world is more stressed these days. We need peace more fervently.